Defenestration
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| Congressman of Sweden | |
| Congressman of Thailand | |
| Party President of Thai Nation Together | |
| Party President of The Social Democratic Party | |
| Congressman of North Korea | |
| Party President of The North Korean Workers Party | |
| Congressman of Slovakia | |
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| Political party | Folket |
| Nationality |  Sweden
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Defenestration is a prominent left-wing politician, a former member of the Communist Party - Soviet Union, and founder of The Social Democratic Party in Thailand. In addition, Defenestration have served as congressman in Sweden for the Arbetarepartiet MSAP party. He took over leadership of the TNT party in Thailand after a lot of formerly prominent party members had left the country for Brazil. After a while as party-president he began reforms to give the old TNT party a real purpose. in April 2009 he renamed the party the social democratic party.
In May 2009 Defenestration left Thailand and The Social Democratic Party in the hands of his old friend Ziggard Vosk, whom he had worked with in the Communist Party - Soviet Union, and headed for North Korea. IN North Korea he co-founded The North Korean Workers Party, and laid out a new socialist model for North Korea.
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Personal History
Defenestration started out as a eSweden citizen sometime around June 2008. During the beta-version time, he wasn’t very active, but when the v1 came he started to get more engaged into the politics of eRepublik. When Russia was liberated (then called the Soviet Union) he moved there and reportedly was very positively surprised of the experience. After having fought against the Romanian imperialists, and after Russia had been conquered he moved to Thailand, richer for the experience, and with brewing ideas of how to make eRepublik a more fun game.
Views on eRepublik
On the 8th of February 2009 Defenestration posted the following article where he discusses what the meaning of eRepublic is, and why, in the face of what can actually be done in the game to make it funny, politics mean verry different things in the real world as opposed to what they mean in eRepublik.
The Soviet Article
- Right. People. Just answer me this real quickly: what is the point of this game?
- Is it to get massive amounts of gold?
- I never dig understood that, but some people might think that. I’d say they are wasting their time. I mean, they could go farming on WoW and have a hell of a lot better a time.
- Is it to start and win wars?
- Well, once again - what’s the point? There is a thousand, no, millions, of games where you can do that in a much more fun way.
- So what is the point of this game?
- The description says “online social strategy game” and that gives us a hint doesn’t it? We are supposed to create big organizations and movements that transcend the game. Indeed - we have to do that. Because let’s face it: the game itself sucks. Really, really hard. During the beta version, people where much better at transcending the limits of the game; SOs where created and lines of command were set up etc. So, after about 6 months the admins made some of those things a real part of the game. And here we stand. With nothing to do.
- The most fun I ever had in this game was when I moved to the Soviet Union just as it had been liberated.
- Yes, you heard me - the Soviet Union.
- And let me tell you why: Politics doesn’t mean the same in the real world as they do here. I won’t get into any argument about the values of a completely free market in the real world vs. a regulated one - in any event it has nothing to do with this game.
- What happened in the eRepublik Soviet Union was that a very simple and yet genius system for direct democratic rule was introduced. The “Communist Party - Soviet Union” owned most of the companies in the country, and the people running them was all elected through polls on the party’s homepage (an external homepage like the eThai forum) - as was all other officials and minor positions within the virtual organizations (such as the propaganda ministry etc) that developed. It was great fun!
- Do you know the reason for this? The reason is that when the Soviet Union was around, this game finally lived up to it’s full potential, and it transcended it’s boundaries - we were a group of individuals around the world who came together and felt that we created and was a part of something together.
- Now. There will inevitably be someone who will comment negatively on account of me speaking positively of the “Communist Party - Soviet Union” - and they will say things like “tyrants” and “damned commies” and stuff like that.
- And the people who do- are idiots. You can’t mistake the real world for eRepublik - and in eRepublik, the CPSU has been one of the best and funniest things that has happened to this game.
- What’s my point with all this? We need to do something new. I am asking the political establishment of eThailand directly: What do you want with this game?
- Humbly yours
- Defenestration
Work In North Korea
Defenestration has dedicated himself to helping North Korea out in the fight against PTO’s, however, while stressing the importance of unity in the face of such threats, Defenestration wants to see a socialist North Korea. On may 21st he wrote:
- “For months I have heard from people that North Korea should be added so that we could get a socialist state going there, and now that it is added, I see tons of people joining who are just boring “let’s do the same as in the rest of the eWorld”-people.
- What are you doing here? I’m not angry or anything like that, I just don’t get it. There is no reason to be here (unless you are PTOing) if you don’t want to do something different. So let’s do that.
- We HAVE the other capitalist model in all the other eRepublic countries - what’s wrong with them? I doubt that you are IRL North Koreans so what’s the deal?
- - I don't want anyone to get upset by this, I'm not trying to create division, we need to be united in the fight against the PTO's, I just want to encurage people to ask themselves the question - and also to lift forth malta_1990 as a good example of someone who has done just that.
- Yours Humbly
- Defenestration”
Defenestration on eCapitalism and North Korea
- Some people say that they only came here to help out a new country, they don’t want eCommunism, they just want a new country because they felt their old one was boring. I get that - eSweden sucked, and I left after 2 months. But eCapitalism is the same if you work for it here or in the eUSA. You say you want to work for “Prosperity, and an interesting NK”
- Yes, that all sounds noble enough, but let me be blunt:
- it’s pointless.
- You know, there are people who have been around longer then me in this game, to be sure, but I have been around since the beta time, and I have owned companies, lived in q few countries, fought in a few wars. And let me tell you this - this idea of “making a new country a prosperous one” is a pointless one.
- It leads to nothing new. Nothing. Believe me, Thailand is a mall country that people are working to make “prosperous” and “glorious” and what does that yield? Nothing! Save perhaps for the presidents, but even they express frustration with the whole thing.
- Yea, we get trade going, and yea, we are a mini-eUS now, but to what end?
- William Shafer may whine about the Soviet Union not working all to well, but my guess is that he didn’t really want to be a part of it all from the beginning, he wasn’t a party member, and he and many others didn’t really want anything except to be able to get a lot of Gold. Which is pointless anyway, because it isn’t real.
- Now, the Soviet Union gave us an example of how eCommunism can make this game fun, and have a point. People working together for a bigger purpose, being that of global eCommunism, and all that - comrades of the revolution, and so what if you have to be a party member or something to get it good in North Korea (or the Soviet Union)? We will try it here - all the other countries - ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES - have the other model, which is just “work, eat, hope you get gold to start company….die”
- In North Korea we will try to build a complex, a Peoples State - and I’m sure at some point we will experience corruption, just like all other countries do, but we will do our best to get it working, because our system, The Peoples State of North Korea, will be unique, it will be fun - and we stand NOTHING to loose, since this is just a game. That’s why I could swear blind allegiance to my Premier in the Soviet Union (Manifesto) - and that is why I will work for eCommunism here - because there is everything to win if we get it working, and all we loose otherwise is a plane ticket to Thailand or the US.
The international leftist movement
Defenestration seems to be of the opinion that the communist and socialist parties of the eWorld should focus their efforts on North Korea. He wrote on the board of the Internationale:
- “You all know how it is - there are a lot of us around the eWorld, but there are all the more capitalists that get a fright every time they hear the word "socialist". Now I propose that we unite in North Korea, like many of us wanted to do in the Soviet Union -
- I propose that the parties around the world pool their assets and get their members moving tickets and get them over to North Korea. The revolution-bridgehead can be there. Plus, it’ll be fun.
- What do we achieve divided?”
The NK Socialist Model
"The NK Socialist Model is one based on worker-owned companies, and giving them an advantage over privately owned one. Instead of creating a lot of government owned companies that will need a big government to work them, we will create a oversight committee, with a few government officials who will handle applications from companies that want government aid (in the form of Gold).
If the company that asks for Gold is found to be a worker-owned company where the profits actually go to the workers and/or socialist military groups (such as the Workers’ Militia) and if the workers are indeed treated well and have a say in the company - then they will be given Gold from the government to be able to get an advantage over capitalistic companies.
A few government companies will be needed, for example in housing and hospitals etc - but overall, this would not demand a big government and it would minimize corruption. If the recipient of government funds is found to be corrupt, they will simply stop getting aid - and since no huge amounts will be given out at any time, but instead smaller over time, a mistake wouldn’t be a disaster.
This plan was first laid out by Defenestration, one of the co-founders of The North Korean Workers Party; this is the basic idea, and it can be expanded on, and is mainly intended to lay out a framework."
