User talk:Ward De Bever

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Editing anothers citizen page

Ward, I have no problems with you creating a discussion against another's wiki page but just changing it without asking I find to be quite rude. Please refrain from doing so in the future, a discussion is fine, editing without consent isn't. Remember that. -- Icon-Belgium.png Mikhail Alexander 23:18, 12 September 2011 (PDT)

I assume you speak about my edits on Monsieur Guillontine's user page? No need to export discussion on Monsieur Guillontine's pages here. I'm an experienced wikipedia editor and the first rule there is: be bold. If i edit and say why and you edit and say why and we're both honest in our motives, this is the efficient way to go. It's not Monsieur's or your or my page, we're having a community effort here: objective and verifiable facts are a priority above personal squabbles. Now please talk about the content, and not the form of the edits. Ward De Bever 05:26, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
You say "objective and verifiable facts are a priority above personal squabbles." yet you bring your personal squabbles to the wiki editing Monsieur Guillontine's and starting an editing war on the Belgium wiki page where I tried to compromise but that wasn't even enough. If you're an experienced wiki editor you should know better then this kind of behavior. --Fhaemita Malodorous 08:56, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
We're mixing up several edits here. Of course your compromise on the Belgium page was good, Fhaemita, and I accepted it (mentioning both forums, which was also the sense of my edit). I directly edited rumours and interpretations on Monsieur Guillontine's page, which should be discussed there. Sampo555 made a compromise there (the ref tag) which I accept. Also, I cannot accept that another user uses his page to spread unfounded rumours about me. According to policy (point 1.11), Monsieur Guillontine does not own his Citizen page and I am free to state the facts right. I cannot let him state false facts or subjective interpretations just like that. - Ward De Bever 09:13, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
Stating the facts right? You mean editing so it fits your views more like it, there is a big difference. Truth is a three-edged sword. One side is your truth, the other side is their truth, and the third side is the truth."--Fhaemita Malodorous 09:47, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
What are you talking about now, Fhaemita? Can you please continue on http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Talk:Monsieur_Guillontine if you talk about these edits?Ward De Bever 09:53, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
I am talking about you saying that statements made by Monsieur Guillontine are lies and that your version is the truth. Everybody has their version of the truth, a bit of repsect of his point of view might be appreciated seeing that it was his wiki page. --Fhaemita Malodorous 10:10, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
Then Monsieur Guillontine should have the decency to state this as a view or an opinion, and not as a fact. Again, it's NOT his page, it's ours. - Ward De Bever 10:13, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
It is a wiki page about him, written by him. I am getting a bit tired of your bully-like behavior here and on the eBE forum wanting to have everything your way. People make wiki pages especially citizens pages for fun. What you are doing acting this childish manor is draining the fun out of the wiki. I think you should think about that and not only wanting to be right and getting things your way. --Fhaemita Malodorous 10:18, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
Behaviour policy (point 1.11): ownership of articles. This is not only about fun: it's also about controlling/rewriting history, maybe for in-game electoral purposes. We agree that we play a game, but you must respect me also if I choose to play it seriously (I think there are more chances to 'win' it that way). - Ward De Bever 10:23, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
This is not abuse, this is reasoning. We want to have what Guillontine wants on his page. If you do not agree with it, its not mine, Fhaemitas or his problem but yours. What would you say if I put this same information on your page, you'd get pissed off, like he is as well as me and Fhaemita. Give it up, you can't win. -- Icon-Belgium.png Mikhail Alexander 20:25, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
I don't put rumours about MG on my page, simple as that. The point of wiki is to provide information, not propaganda. I can't stand that people spread rumours about me on their pages. We'll see if Monsieur Guillontine will be able to provide the required references for his 'reasoning'. Meanwhile, the moderator 'ref needed' tags stay on his citizen page. - Ward De Bever 21:45, 13 September 2011 (PDT)

References

Just to let you know, forum posts can't be used as references since only a few people might have access to them making them insignificant. Please remember this in future. -- Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander | Talk 19:01, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

What about publicly accessible forum parts? - Ward De Bever 02:53, 7 October 2011 (PDT)

Monsieur Guillontine page again

Go to the Talk:Monsieur_Guillontine#SC_case and work out a resolution for your revert war with Ward De Bever. Thank you!--Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 05:12, 7 October 2011 (PDT)

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