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Using API in the wiki

Editors agreed to this but the implementation of this feature has been postponed with 3 months by eRepublik Team. -- sampo555 | Talk 06:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Active string parsing

People supported it but no one know if it'll ever be activated. -- sampo555 | Talk 06:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussions

Discussion 1: Region Maps

Should we create standard format for region maps? If yes, what would it be. Here are some thoughts from last months discussion:

• "I'm not in favor of every country looking the same, but I am in favor of every particular country having its region maps looking uniform."
• "At the moment I'm favouring doing large, continental maps then "zooming in" on each country/region to make each individual map. Let it be said now I favour standardisation over complete differences, but I think some originality in colours etc would be possible per country."
• "A standard Wikipedia map would be fine, something like this [1], its blank, its clean and it has all the regions, if there is countries with less regions then Real life, we can just take the borders off and realign them. Simple!"

Let the discussion continue! -- sampo555 | Talk 02:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

Tbh, we should've had standardised wiki maps two years ago. It gives the wiki an air of professionalism and organisation. We just need to choose which style :P • John F Baker Talk   Royal Navy 09:19, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

I would vote for one with a modern look, not very plain, but not too colorful. ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 12:46, 15 May 2011 (PDT)

I agree with McKay. Something neutral also like grey with a dark grey border highlighted green to show a region within the nation. --Ian E Coleman 19:50, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

Discussion 2: Country pages being out of date

Do you think that it would be better to have unified style for country pages so that they would be easier to update? Here are some thoughts from last months discussion:

• "If you mean totally standardizing the country pages, and making the totally the same, then I strongly disagree. It is not a solution for updating pages."
• "I think that standardizing the pages would be good move, it would be nice that every country has same basic informations, and another page with country's history"
• "I'm against standardising pages. It's crappy looking at the same thing everywhere and as it is, editors (and different countries) are given creative freedom."
• "To a basic format, but I would agree that other than the template structure, wiki editors should be able to mould the page format a bit."

Tell us your opinion! -- sampo555 | Talk 02:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

I think that, at the least, we should have a checklist of what (and what shouldn't) be included in a country page, and standard templates/styles used to present this data, to give some uniformity. • John F Baker Talk   Royal Navy 09:19, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

Yes, it would be more easy to update if we have a standard in pages, although a little color won't bother ;-) ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 12:44, 15 May 2011 (PDT)

This is my best attempt at doing this so far: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/User:VSkyzv/Streamline

It's basically a huge page that created by linking to smaller ones. The different tables can be individually linked to in country pages and all use a common template. The one huge page can be used as a direct way to access all data at once. Hope it helps (P.S. Color can be added later) --VSkyzv 22:46, 11 June 2011 (PDT)

Discussion 3: Translations on alliances

Should the alliance translation be be forbidden? Here are some points:

• "most of those haven't been updated for about 7 months now, even with outdated tags on them for about 5 months. Well imo they wont give any accurate info to people about those alliances"
• "Don't agree. Then we can use the same principle for majority of other translated pages... Better to put 'outdated tag' on old articles."

What do you think? -- sampo555 | Talk 02:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

I'm all in favor of deleting out-dated translations. They only serve to mis-inform their readers, when they could just attempt to google translate the (relatively) up-to-date English article. • John F Baker Talk   Royal Navy 09:19, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

end of discussion? ---- Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 17:26, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

Tax Listings

Does anyone have an up to date template for taxes? Sorry if this is obvious, but I've been looking for one, and although all countries display the bracket correctly the actual editing screen still shows them all as including all the different kinds of raw materials and as having income taxes where there shouldn't be. --Ian E Coleman 20:14, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

Uber Editors list cleanup

Hi, I think Uber Editors list needs some cleanup as there are users that aren't very active last time like AgentChieftain (last edit - 11 May 2010), User:Taksas027 (last edit - 31 May 2010), Hrvat (last edit - 28 December 2010), KristofferAG (last edit - 12 May 2010) and so on. Any ideas? -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 06:50, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

Nothing wrong with leaving them there, they might come back and they'll be happy to know they still have their Uber Editor Status. I say leave it. -- Mikhail Alexander 18:35, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

This has been in practice for a long time and it should continue. A lot of people have already lost their Uber Editior status because of being inactive, so in order to be fair, this "tradition" should continue. --Aryamehr talk 02:41, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Agree: "This has been in practice for a long time and it should continue." The Uber Editors list should be one of people to which a new or old contributor can turn to for guidance or random help. No longer active contributors can provide such guidance/help, but I presume that they currently have more important priorities. --Belea2008 01:15, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

Yup. So when and who will remove their Uber editor status? --Aryamehr talk 06:03, 21 May 2011 (PDT)

Bulk uploader

I was wondering if we could get a bulk uploader for the wiki, I've made around 18 maps for Italy and its going to be a pain in the bum if I have to upload each of those individually. Can we get a bulk uploader to solve the problem? It would help a lot. -- Mikhail Alexander 18:14, 21 May 2011 (PDT)

It would be good for some cases - but no matter how hard we want it, it'll never be added. You just gotta to remind that this would make it a lot easier for vandals to massively upload their pictures here... -- sampo555 | Talk 02:33, 22 May 2011 (PDT)

Can't we set it that it has to be approved by an Admin before a bulk upload can be done? -- Mikhail Alexander 14:20, 22 May 2011 (PDT)

Inactive sysops and uber editors

Are they not going to lose their titles because of being inactive? What do you think? In fact they should be replaced by other active players (No. I am not saying this for myself, I don't even want to be a sysop or anything. I do not care THAT much) --Aryamehr talk 12:05, 23 May 2011 (PDT)

What's with the hurry? (signed by an active inactive sysop)--DanielDimow|☪|Speak to me. 15:16, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

There is no harm leaving them. They come back, they post here, we tell them whats happened and they continue there duties. Just leave them, they mean no harm. -- Mikhail Alexander 21:11, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

I'm in favor of "removing" inactive Uber Editors - after all, that list should be a list of active people which are available to help new editors. I'm not in favor of "removing" SysOps - that "responsibility", once granted, should not be "removed", from my point of view. --Belea2008 01:42, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

Pages that can have fictional content and pages that can not

Fictional policy tells us which pages can not have fictional content. These include:

• countries;
• regions;
• company;
• parties;
• newspapers;
• eRepublik Wiki users;
• pages that have Template:MenuRising in them.

I propose two things to be added to this page:

• Main religion pages

For example, religion Bananism that love bananas so much, their "main page" (which would be Bananism) must be neutral and factual for people to get information.

Wait, what? You're saying the fictional religion, that we know isn't in the actual game, shouldn't contain fictional content? xD • John F. Baker Talk   Royal Navy 13:12, 23 May 2011 (PDT)

Haha. Yeah. My fault. Too much studying I guess! I am thinking of keeping the pages unbiased and neutral instead. As you can see I said "neutral and factual". Instead of having that main page biased as well. Though this shouldn't be here, again my fault sorry.. --Aryamehr talk 13:16, 23 May 2011 (PDT)

• Citizen pages

These pages are central in Erepublik. A lot of people want to know what someone has done in their "erepublik life" and so on. Therefore fictional information only confuses players, and makes it easier for others to insult and harass others.

Fair enough, although to an extent. Being MoD of a country is a fictional appointment; there's no such thing in erep. You need to define what you mean by "fictional", seeing as the vast majority of the stuff on this wiki (other than gameplay documentation) is basically user-generated fluff. I.e eFiction. • John F. Baker Talk   Royal Navy 13:12, 23 May 2011 (PDT)

Yeah. I thought about this. It will be hard. But Minister of Defence in my opinion is not fictional, because it exist. The president of your country (or anyone else) has said that you are the Minister of Defense. And you do things that has to do with your position. :)

If the CP can say "you are MoD", what's to stop any other citizen saying "I am lord vader". That smells of icky double standards :P • John F. Baker Talk   Royal Navy 04:12, 24 May 2011 (PDT)

Well. For this to work I guess I will have to define what's not fictional. Perhaps: Any position/title/status that is realistic (realistic in the meaning that since Erepublik is supposed to be based on real life), and with that position/title/status comes real tasks/duty that really means you do something Erepublik-related, is not fictional. These have to be releated to Erepublik. A quick definition lol. But the main thing that I want to discuss though if something like this should exist or not? --~~

Im skeptical of how such rules would be properly enforced, and if they are really necessary, tbh. • John F. Baker Talk   Royal Navy 05:43, 25 May 2011 (PDT)

Now that I have thought more. I agree that this might be useless. So ignore this everyone. Regarding rules being enforced, like any other rule :) But this needs more thought. I might bring it up again some other day, but probably not. Instead I might focus on not allowing insults and such using fictional information. --Aryamehr talk 14:23, 25 May 2011 (PDT)

Suggestions? Perhaps any other pages that should be added? :) --Aryamehr talk

Suggestion: Reward to those who translate pages

Some of my fellow Iranian editors have done a lot of translating on the wiki. See: eRepublik Official Wiki:Wiki_Translators_Bureau/فارسی and then scroll down a little bit. Especially User:Emperor Matin has done a lot of edits (see his contributions). User: Ali Emami has also been very active, he has previously edited a lot of pages and participated in the massive translating. User:Boriani as well did participate.

Therefore I am suggesting editors who translate a lot of pages, deserve soe kind of reward. As this wiki gets more translated --> It means more players which brings more income ;)

Feel free to discuss this. If you do not want to add a general reward like Rewards I suggest these particular editors get a reward, and in future everyone who does plenty of translation like them.

Regards --Aryamehr talk 07:02, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

-1 Isn't that biased towards translators, who translate articles from the English one? You could reason that the people who make the English articles deserve the same (if not more) reward for making the articles in the first place, which also helps retention of players.

I think rewarding editors in general who make the most updates and totally new articles, and of the top quality, should be rewarded; this is partially reflected by the Rewards system. • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 08:07, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

I am saying anyone who translates anything. That includes translating foreign articles to English. Out of a Erepublik staff view, this is a good idea - because they need people to translate pages. Then comes more players. Then the game becomes bigger. The bigger the game is, the more chance of them increasing their income. The more fun the game is.

People need to be awarded for doing hard work. Translating is a VERY hard work. Other edits are being rewared through Rewards. --Aryamehr talk 10:41, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

-1 I disagree, if people see you can get a reward for translating pages, people will translate a bit on the wiki and leave. So no. No reward for translators. -- Mikhail Alexander 14:20, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

Translating a bit does not get you a reward. Where did you get that from? And what makes you draw that conclusion? If somebody get a reward, maybe he or she will continue. Do you see people leaving the wiki after getting rewards through Rewards? --Aryamehr talk 14:36, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

Whatever happened to the wiki Ambassador Program? I always thought being able to have a cool in-game badge was a pretty awesome reward in itself. Maybe a similar translators badge would be nice. I dunno, just a thought. As for rewards, if the editors are translating a lot of pages they would naturally fall into the rewards program as well, wouldn't they? -- Citizen 6 _Talk   22:56, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

+1 "On the same page, they can propose other authors/editors to receive the reward" - I'm in favor of giving more rewards and not necessarily to top contributors. In the spirit of the same idea, I would like that contributors which contribute to Wiki Project Military and document World War V to receive rewards. Also, translators. Also, active uber editors. As long as (a) clear guidelines are set for which contributors to receive rewards OR (b) it is very clear why a certain editor or several contributors received the reward (and are not top contributors for that month) - why not... In theory, more rewards should bring an increased activity. It is up to us to make sure that the increased activity does not lead in a decrease in quality of content. --Belea2008 08:02, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

+1 to Belea's idea - I like the idea of having specific 'project' rewards. It just seemed unfair when only Translators where being proposed :).

On this subject, it might be worthwhile looking at our current wikiprojects, updating and adding/removing them, so we can run a proper project system. What we have now is basically a 'stick your name on the list and do what you want" system, which might make rewards hard to measure :P • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 11:58, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

Thank you Belea2008. This is exactly what I wanted with this post - discussion. What I wrote was only supposed to be used as a "beginning" for the discussion to say. Unfortunately that did not happen very well. I was actually thinking of bringing this up. I believe very much in rewarding people for specific articles. This is also how it used to be - check the first Erepublik rewards - people got rewards for doing specific things.

Rewards is not very fair. It is fair in the meaning that one who does a lot of work gets reward. But if somebody else does a lot of work too - but maybe not enough - but still it is a lot (perhaps it required more research etc) then they would not get any reward. In this case, Emperor Matin and his friends translated around 50 pages to Farsi in two days. Does not require a reward you think? I think it does. It is not simple work. Anyone who has translated knows how much time it consumes.

Therefore I agree with Belea2008. In fact this was my real purpose now that I really think about it, the possibilty to give rewards to others for specific reasons (of course - by giving a good reason). And so I believe we should focus on how we can improve this then - I do not know here or on the Rewards talk page. I for one believe everyone can nominate whoever they want, they give a reason, and then the rest of the community can vote. Of course there is a problem here - the community can, since we are so little, abuse their powers and not let deserving editors get rewards.. perhaps because of jealousy or anything else. But I don't think we have this here - so I don't see that as a problem yet. This can also be worked against by having others to motivate their Yes or No.

Opinions regarding the possibility to give specific authors rewards? --Aryamehr talk 12:19, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

Would it be possible to give various in-game badges? If a player comes across another profile that they see while playing the game it might make other players say "what is that?" click on it and be brought to the wiki. Dunno know if there would be tech problems with that, but it is p cool to have a little something flashy in-game. But of course gold is always good too. :-) -- Citizen 6 _Talk   18:41, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

0 In Iran , The congress specify 20 GOLD for wiki each month . We support good translators , people write articles about wiki and ... I think our system is more effective than wiki reward system to keep wiki pages update and more useful for eWorld ;) . One of the dream of Iranian are seeing this game translated to Farsi . Just help us and show the way we can force Admin to translate game to Farsi like other language. Ali Emami talk to me 02:09, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

A little off topic but I and couple other Finns translated the game to Finnish but it's been 1.5 years and Finnish still isn't a language in eRepublik. So good luck with the project :D -- sampo555 | Talk 12:24, 15 June 2011 (PDT)

+1 Wiki medals in game would be fantastic. -- Mikhail Alexander 14:17, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Government ministry template

Hai all, just created this template for government ministries, departments, agencies etc. Just putting it out there :) Some examples:

• Ministry of Foreign Affairs
• Ministry of Home Affairs

Thanks, • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 08:09, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

I was monitoring you while you were creating it - very good work. It is awesome. I have a suggestion and that is adding "Budget" there as well, or "Monthly Budget". And perhaps "Employees". Well done. EDIT: Maybe Staff can be used as Employees though ;) --Aryamehr talk 08:25, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Staff was meant for Employees, yes. But I'll add budget to it :) • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 08:53, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Not all Ministries have logos so this makes it hard again :3 -- Mikhail Alexander 14:16, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Nope. If no logo is assigned, it shows the country's flag instead. I thought this through, Mikhail ;) • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 15:27, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Well then, it is a fantastic template and I can't wait to use it. -- Mikhail Alexander 21:16, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

Just a quick thing, if people make pages in the future. I think they should make it as, "Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Germany)" It just saves time and stops confusion. -- Mikhail Alexander 16:25, 3 June 2011 (PDT)

War Monitoring

I'm looking for a way to see all the war articles created in chronological order to avoid duplication, and for tracking/sorting purposes. Is there a way to automatically generate a temporary (maybe 2 week) list of pages that use the War template, in the order which they are created? Or, as a work around, does the "what links here" function on template:War show a chronological list (I think so, but not sure)? By going to the last entries, are they the most recent to have used the template, or does the "links here" page jumble them up? -- Citizen 6 _Talk   06:23, 3 June 2011 (PDT)

	“ The What links here facility lists the pages on the same site which link to a given page. The list is sorted by page id, i.e., by date of creation of the page. ”
	(wikimedia.org)

So the what links here list should be in chronological order already... -- sampo555 | Talk 06:44, 3 June 2011 (PDT)

Alright, thanks for the clarify. I'll use that. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   18:50, 3 June 2011 (PDT)

Romania

I was thinking of updating the Romania maps because they need some attention and it is a fairly manageable sized country. However, someone has wiped all the original geography data from the Romania page and frankly I suck at knowing that portion of the world's borders in this game (and RL for that matter). Anyway, if some wouldn't mind reinstating that section of the page I can proceed. For some reason it has been cleared to show only current regions, and even those have not been updated much since the Fourth Balkan War. I don't think country pages should be edited like that - regions are ok, but not country pages. Little help, please. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   06:03, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly but if you need the original regions of Romania, check this out. Another possibility is that I misunderstood you completely but let me know if I did ;) -- sampo555 | Talk 06:40, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

I'm happy to fill all the information in and I can make Romanian maps if you give me till tomorrow. -- Mikhail Alexander 20:49, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

If you want to, go for it. I just noticed the regions are mapless and the country map is wacky. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   02:04, 7 June 2011 (PDT)

I've been getting my maps from here for most countries and adapting them for eRepublik. Most are wrong and the borders are a little different from eRepubliks but it is good enough for the wiki :) -- Mikhail Alexander 01:34, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

Looks good. I was gonna go with yellow since that is the game color for Romania, but its "maker's prerogative", so its up to you. Good Work! -- Citizen 6 _Talk   03:33, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

In most cases, eRep map is wrong in borders. -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 01:49, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

If the admins could just use the proper borders used in Real life, we wouldn't have the issue for maps. They do it for America and Italy and yet Peru and Poland don't even get half of their original regions. -- Mikhail Alexander 05:25, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

I can tell you the USA borders are seriously whacked in some places. Take a look at Kentucky in-game. I don't even know what that is, but it sure ain't KY. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   09:52, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

Locking pics used in common templates

Apparently the wiki software has some technical difficulties that are causing problems with scaling. For example, the Template:Hard Worker (500+ used) had a recent image update that just went screwy. We may have to rescale all the medal templates, because most users present them as blocs and the resize is playing havoc with nearby formatting. Anyway, if possible, I propose we lock all images that are being used on templates that effect a number of pages, i.e. common templates. Side note: There is also Template:medals that does the same thing, but doesn't allow as much range for placement in pages, but is a nice alternative for bloc presentation.

+1 for me. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   05:21, 10 June 2011 (PDT)

+1. Also temporary fix for that {{Hard Worker}} created (declare width and height trough CSS and let the browser handle scaling). -- sampo555 | Talk 06:07, 10 June 2011 (PDT)

+1 flags, icons etc can all defo be locked. • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 18:49, 16 June 2011 (PDT)

American English

I don't agree that all images and eRepublik terms are to be turned into the spelling of American English. It isn't the majority language. I suggest British English be used as it makes more sense and is spelt correctly. -- Mikhail Alexander 19:06, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

I agree that every game term here should be same as they are in-game (no matter if they are American, British or Australian English). A lot of game terms are in American English but Belea said that they're "changing" the main language of eRepublik from American to British. So when they change the expression in game we change it here in wiki. For other things: it doesn't really matter (as it's stated in Help:Style Guide). And about the aluminum vs aluminium thing, the redirects are still there. -- sampo555 | Talk 23:15, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

You spelled "spelt" incorrectly. "Spelt" is apparently a species of wheat ... hmm ... who knew.  :-p

Anyway, I say we use Engrish instead. FTW! Its much more fun that way. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   23:36, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

Add country communications to the sidebar

The Community Communication article is extremely useful, and from what I've seen, demanded but under-known. I think we'd do well, as the knowledge machine of the game, to stick it on the sidebar under "Suggestions" to make it more obvious. • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 14:38, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

Going a little off-topic here but I think it also needs an update, I'll be happy to go to each IRC to check if it works and if not, where it is. Can we ad fictional countries too? :D -- Mikhail Alexander 14:44, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

saying no to that "Can we ad fictional countries too?", as for the actual discussion, i agree. ---- Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 17:23, 13 June 2011 (PDT)

Well it doesn't actually say that the community communication article must only contain country chans/forums. We could potentially make it a reservoir for all sorts of party, military, organisation etc community 'areas', under the section on countries. But let's leave that for another discussion :P • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 03:33, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

+1 for adding community communication to sidebar, -1 for fictional stuff. -- sampo555 | Talk 12:21, 15 June 2011 (PDT)

What Sampo said. +1 for community communications on sidebar, but leave the fictional stuff out.--vSkyzv Talk - Contribs 14:43, 15 June 2011 (PDT)

Well alright then. Can an admin do the honours? :P • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 18:48, 16 June 2011 (PDT)

It has been done! :) -- Mikhail Alexander 21:59, 18 June 2011 (PDT)

Some excellent templates by VSkyzv

I'd just like to say, I'm thoroughly impressed with the templates that User:VSkyzv has been outputting recently:

• User:VSkyzv/Template:Streamline -- Standardised data tables
• Template:Map -- An excellent all-purpose custom-annotated map displayer
• Template:Seats -- A very cool and space-saving congress proportions template
• Template:Occupied -- A useful template to display who owns regions

I'll be looking to implement most of these in the coming days, because they're frankly awesome. So keep up the great work :D • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 18:45, 16 June 2011 (PDT)

I'm very impressed as well, he only came back to the game a while ago and he has already made these. If he keeps continuing his good work, I'll nominate him for Uber Editor :) -- Mikhail Alexander 00:19, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

leet! -- Citizen 6 _Talk   02:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

I saw them as well. Awesome work. :) --Aryamehr talk 04:32, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

Main page reform

Come to discuss about it at Main Page talk. -- sampo555 | Talk 07:45, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

Discussing. Only thing I would want to see before it going live is: More colors please. --Aryamehr talk 09:32, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

Country pages out of date

I just checked South Korea and found it it still has a table with Low, Medium and High regions of resources. This wiki needs a complete refurb with country and region pages. Bavaria is a basic template I made which I like and is easy to read. I'm happy to start from Argentina and finish with the USA. This wiki needs to stay update, we can start now! -- Mikhail Alexander 18:42, 19 June 2011 (PDT)

I don't really like the section for the flag, on it's own - it's a tad pointless. Just use a thumbnail and put it into the other section? Other than that, yeah defo, it's crazy that we have such outdated info :( • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 23:05, 19 June 2011 (PDT)

I kinda like the flag inclusion, mostly because the USA doesn't really identify as much with state seals and has no coat of arms at all. State Flags are generally more focused on. I was actually thinking of switching the US state seals to state flags, but thats a workload that can wait. But are region flags necessary? I guess not, but it would be nice to have them if someone wants to do the work - though like JB mentioned, I'd prefer to see it not "on its own". I think a field inside the region template would be better. If there isn't a flag image available then we can just leave the field blank. It could probably be placed at the bottom to keep all region consistent in appearance. Also, I think it would be easier to have a separate History section apart from the obligatory lead in "xxx is an original region of yyy" (see Virginia), so that future editing is less intrusive. History will be the most edited section me thinks, and with VSkyzv's occupied template and the ownership API stuff a big chunk of them will be automated. But I do have a question. Do even need a constructions section anymore? As for outdated pages, we just need to recruit some more button-men ;-) -- Citizen 6 _Talk   03:28, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

Since regions still have hospitals, then we need to continue putting them on the pages until they are completely gone, in which we can remove them from the pages. -- Mikhail Alexander 14:18, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

Issue with battle row template

When we have a war pages with long list of battles the region maps aren't found on the last battles. This happens because of MediaWiki software has a limit for expensive parser function calls (like #ifexist which is used by the map generator). When the limit is reached every function that comes after limit will return false and thus the map won't be shown as the template thinks the map isn't found. For example if you take a look here you see that maps just stop appearing after Colorado battle.

This problem could be fixed by using basic #switch parser function. I've created this in my sandbox (code for {{Battle Row/region map}} can be found here). OFC only maps with "Region-" are found from the switch. I'll run a script from time to time to check if new maps have been uploaded to this wiki and update the switch accordingly. So this shouldn't cause any extra problems - it just solves one. Voice your opinion, now (democracy is nice, isn't it)! -- sampo555 | Talk 02:47, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

• +1 ofc. -- sampo555 | Talk 02:47, 20 June 2011 (PDT)
• +1 I have no idea what you just said, but if it fixes the problem then way cool! One of the reasons I was happy to transfer future battles of USA-Spain to ONE World Tour was because of the parser fail, also easier to have it all on one page. ofc now OWTour will likely fall victim to the same issue without the fix. I'm still in the process of adding Region-maps for the rest of the USA, but the invasion is giving me the opportunity to make them as it progresses. Most of USA didn't have region maps, but I've done half of the 50 or so and I'll be sure to name them properly for the switch to do its job. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   03:02, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

Why not just unify maps to .png format, which would reduce number of each #ifexist call from 3 to 1? -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 04:07, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

Actually if the file has .GIF format, one row uses 8 ifexist parsers. LangMenu uses 68 ifexist parsers so it would allow to have maximum of 32 battles / page for all maps to work (if LangMenu is around). Also it's not as easy job to reupload and reformat a huge bunch of files (there's 46 of them ATM). But if someone wants to take it as his/her little project, feel free to do it. Then we can use Grzechooo's idea which is simpler and easier to maintain than mine ;) -- sampo555 | Talk 07:11, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

+1 If it fixes the problem, do it! -- Mikhail Alexander 04:13, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

+1 What Mik said. Also, changing region filenames to .png won't affect new images uploaded in teh future, so we'd have to keep an eye out for those :) • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 10:05, 20 June 2011 (PDT)

Implemented. If some problems arise, please share it with us! -- sampo555 | Talk 08:35, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

Logs from discussion held #wiki last Sunday

I remember that someone wanted to see the logs about the discussion so here they are: User:Sampo555/Logs. Topics such as Suggestion in wiki and public communication were discussed. I removed some lines which weren't related to the discussion. Also some lines might have been cutted during the styling process or by wiki software but most of the discussion should be there. -- sampo555 | Talk 04:34, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

Interesting, and disappointing. Oh well, I'm only playing this game while I wait for Impereality to start. The way it seems to be going, and the admins' logic reflected by Belea, show that there will be little incentive for me to continue playing. • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 06:17, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

Thanks for putting it up. Well. Nothing new, nothing special. What I thought of instantly? Don't allow 12 year old kids take part in the discussion, and why do everyone talk about different things? It was a pain to read that log. Well. I don't see any real discussion in there. What was being discussed in the first place really? Public communication? Well that is a problem. They don't want to communicate. Then don't play. This game is not that addicating...

"Who were the first two presidents to propose that law - Laya (made a lot of Gold and real life money from selling eRepublik accounts) and Cerber (made a lot of Gold and real life money from massive usage of multiple accounts)." This was quite interesting.

Last but not least, in my opinion all game problems can be solved. --Aryamehr talk 14:10, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

Uber Editor list cleanup

There's been some discussion earlier in the bar and now it's time to let the actions speak for themselves. This is said about Uber Editors:

	“ Uber Editors are active members of the community who are available to help others. When one is no longer active, then they should retire to signify their change in status. ”
	(Uber Editor Information.)

But still there is many Uber Editors who aren't active. So as they're not around to voluntary retire we need to do it for them. Voting and commenting will last till end of the month. -- sampo555 | Talk 05:25, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

Following Uber editors should be declared as retired:

• AgentChieftain - Last edit: 11th May 2010
• Andycro - Last edit: 8th March 2011
• Srachit - Last edit: 2nd December 2009
• Litro - Last edit: 9th March 2011
• Hrvat - Last edit: 28th December 2010
• Kuhaa - Last edit: 25th October 2010
• Esteban Delgado - Last edit: 20th May 2010
• NicolaeCarpathia - Last edit: 19th May 2010
• KristofferAG - Last edit: 12th May 2010
• Prince_Terence_II - Last edit: 7th February 2011
• Timeoin - Last edit: 5th May 2011
• Abedecian - Last edit: 12th June 2010

Votes and comments

• +1 for all -- sampo555 | Talk 05:25, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
• +1 for all --Belea2008 06:47, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

• 0 Is this based on eRepublik users or wiki edits? Some I absolutely agree with, anything over a year of course, or if their eRepublik account has been closed, but Timeoin for example not editing for just over a month could have a perfectly valid reason. I mean, I haven't edited for two months but that's because I have been busy with exams, I could easily see people having the same issue (actually I would guess that is why we have so many people dropping off the radar in May-June). In fact I'm flattered I'm not up for nomination, but as you can see, I still pop in now and then ;).

I would suggest the formalising of a proper policy: after a standardised time since last wiki edit, say 3 months, a message is sent to both eRepublik character and wiki page informing them they are being considered for de-uberfication. If there is no reply in 1 week they are officially retired. In this case 3 months would knock off everyone except Timeoin, who as I said could have a good reason.--Martin23230 07:04, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

EDIT: looking as his userpage, Timeoin says he would be away indefinitely which I would count as a retirement. Therefore +1 for all in this case.--Martin23230 07:08, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

• 0 I agree with Martin on most points, but I'd suggest the policy actually be 6 months of non-activity. It doesn't appear to be an extensive list, so bi-annual tidy-up seems appropriate. If a user remains on the list for more months than six because of clean-up date, so be it. Get them on the next round. Basically I leave this up to the admins who are doing the cleaning. However, I do not believe a warning is necessary if it produces undesired admin work. If they are gone for 6 months, basically they are gone. Also, perhaps we should consider reinstatement without vote should they return for a length of time at admin discretion, or if it is user requested. After all they earned it already, so if they want to become active again, Uber status should be reinstated without a vote IMO. -- Citizen 6 _Talk   10:27, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
• +1 to all, and to a policy creation. • John F. Baker (Talk | Contribs) • 10:27, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
• +1 to all, and to a policy creation. (As John F Baker said) --Aryamehr talk 10:33, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

And the voting has passed. These editors are now retired uber editors. -- sampo555 | Talk 00:52, 1 July 2011 (PDT)

16,000

Wiki is near to reach 16,000th pages , does not need any celebrate ?? Ali Emami talk to me 09:13, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

If I remember correctly it already was over 16,000 until a lot of stubs were deleted. Let's celebrate (or run away) when we hit 20k! -- sampo555 | Talk 09:43, 22 June 2011 (PDT)t

More like run away. I wonder what the motive of people doing all the work on the wiki for free is. Reward of 5 gold? For all this work? 16000 pages has been created, a lot of people put a lot of time working on templates etc. --Aryamehr talk 10:34, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

TOC templates

I imported some Table of Content templates, to deal with lenthy articles which you rather don't want to NOTOC, but do limit it's lenght

• Template:TOC limit
• Template:TOChidden

-- Daniel Parker 11:35, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

Changed MediaWiki:Anonnotice...

Just to let you know that I added a notice about some translations being out of date (there's been so much changes that most of them are). Also a little advertisement about requesting wiki account was added. Current anonnotice (the notice you see when you're logged out) is:

Welcome to eRepublik Official Wiki! You can go back to eRepublik by clicking here.

Some translations might be outdated so please refer to the English version of the article for latest information.

We are constantly looking for new editors and translators. You can request account if you wish to become one.

-- sampo555 | Talk 14:07, 26 June 2011 (PDT)

If only requested accounts were approved faster... -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 04:18, 27 June 2011 (PDT)

change my nickname

hello wiki administrators I want to change the nickname from my wiki account Sergio Alejandro Cerda Zunig by this nkw180

thanks in advance

regards

You'll need to speak to Belea2008, if this isn't your name in eRepublii, then you can't get it changed. -- Mikhail Alexander 14:04, 28 June 2011 (PDT)

thanks, that's my name in eRepublik, http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4516528. I'll talk to Belea2008