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During edit war, this is pointless. --Aryamehr talk 20:21, 30 August 2008 (BST)

I agree. It would most likely be reverted out by one of the vandals during the dispute. Also, as far as solving an argument goes, this is more like pointing at the editors and saying "Look! They're fighting!" rather than helping both come to an agreement. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 09:50, 31 August 2008 (BST)

The point is that Aryamehr is unwilling to resolve differences by discussion, and simply thinks that his way is "THE WAY". If he wants to act like a spoilt prick, he should do it elsewhere. Hence, this flags up pages that certain vandals are trolling.

Paddyohale Feedback? 12:31, 31 August 2008 (BST)

I understand where you are coming from, and you're certainly correct. It's just that the template will be removed by the vandaliser when they revert the page indiscriminately. Then, if the person who added the template decides to add it again, boom; they're a part of the edit war. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

Please tel me what your problem with me is?

Is it the recent edit problems on a few articles? If so, who are you to care and why do you attack me only? Do stuff that has to do with you. You are trying to act like a wannabe-mod here and I don't really like them. Is it the alexis bonte and George Lemnaru pages? Again, if so, who are you to speak about that when you just recently arrived without contributing much? How does having those pages hurt you when it doesn't even involve you? How come again, I get attacked when I wasn't the only contributor to those pages? PROTIP: Grow up. If I was trolling and vandalizing I wouldn't be here now, but I am, so your logic is flawed. --Aryamehr talk 12:41, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Ha ha, very funny. Have you not got the hint that everyone is peeved off with your actions? I don't see people complaining about me, and I don't see people complaining about AC. And neither of us has ever been banned from eRep, so go figure.

Paddyohale Feedback? 12:50, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Actually, I've been banned twice. The first time was for posting the Flag of Pakistan made out of Cool Mr. Green, and thr second time was for saying Aryamehr had a black heart (Not kidding). Even so, besides this minor factual error doesn't change your point, which I believe is still correct. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

Cool, everyone is against me yet I am here. The fact that I didn't get banned yesterday but a few other /v/ers got banned for vandalism proves that I am innocent and clean, so is AgentChieftain of course as he didn't vandalize but just insult which was no biggie. I am not banned from Erepublik, what are you talking about kid? You are still refusing to tell me what I did to piss you off, but I think you are just trying to be wannabe mod here so yeah, I am comfortable here. :) --Aryamehr talk 12:52, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Actually, I don't recall insulting you yesterday. I'm pretty sure Admin blocked both sides of the argument temporarily to let everyone cool down. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

You didn't insult me yesterday but you insulted me a few days ago, I let it go at that time The rest was banned for vandalism. --Aryamehr talk 12:58, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I doubt), but Koroush was banned in-game, just like I said above. And I suggest you read the fictional policy again, especially where it says:

The main objectives of this Wiki are:
* help Erepublik Citizens;
* inform non-Erepublik Citizen about The New World.

Vandalising articles does not fall under either of those statements, so you should stop doing it.

Paddyohale Feedback? 13:03, 31 August 2008 (BST)

|Koroush was not banned ingame
1- If admins wanted they would remove the articles, so apparently they are not and they think that it doesn't have any harm. It's only you in this whole wiki crying about alexis bonte and George Lemnaru articles probably thinking deleting them will get you a cool award from them later. Stop being a wannabe-mod
2- What articles did I vandalize? Bring them up so I can see. Funny, that you are bugging me but not those who vandalized ATLANTIS and then I went through and fixed it up and that you bugging me when a lot of other people have done worse. Do you think you are cool or something? You are just making yourself enemies. I think you are just jealous though!
Stop crying now, really. Do something about it or stop crying. --Aryamehr talk 13:07, 31 August 2008 (BST)

1. Koroush was previously permanently banned. This is kinda-sorta well known.
2. I think they find them funny. However, I do think that it should have a few less in-jokes, and more jokes that everyone would understand.
3. I'm pretty sure Paddyohale is referring to Sand and Sandworm.

- –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

Can you please let me talk to Paddy first AgentChieftain before speaking for him? Thanks. I will let you know when you can speak to me, please stay in the line. I know I am famous and all that, but you must realize that you can't just jump in when two people are talking. --Aryamehr talk 13:23, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Oh right, excuse me. I'll power down my duel disk so you can have a fair one-on-one match with Yugi. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

OH WOW WHERE DID HE (wannabe mod) GO --Aryamehr talk 13:51, 31 August 2008 (BST)

What gives you the right to tell people when they can and cannot contribute to this? Unlike others, I cannot spend all day on here as I have a job and I do occasionally go off to get something to eat. And as for vandalism, there are two sides to every dispute - and I note that you are usually one of them.

Until you grow up, I see no reason to continue this. If you have an issue, take it up with the Admins. Some of us are trying to make positive changes to this Wiki, it is becoming clear that you are not in that group.

Paddyohale Feedback? 13:59, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Cool. A minute ago he was all here, doing templates and talking etc now he is trying to act mature and run away from the discussion. Good job. Please come back again! --Aryamehr talk 14:06, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Deletion

Delete: Y/N?
+1 Yes. Delete it because during edit wars this is pointless. --Aryamehr talk 14:24, 31 August 2008 (BST)
+1 I agree for once, it's pointless :/ ----Altnabla 14:34, 31 August 2008 (BST)
0 - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}
0 for the moment --Belea2008 chew the fat 14:29, 31 August 2008 (BST)
-1 Paddyohale Feedback? 14:31, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Deletion - Removed

I have removed the {{Deletion}} tag, it is a valid template and once again one user is trying to enforce his will onto everybody else. There has been no discussion or consensus as to adding this Deletion template, so it shouldn't have been put up in the first place. To the user in question, it is courteous to discuss proposed deletions in the Talk Page first.

Paddyohale Feedback? 14:26, 31 August 2008 (BST)

While I also think this is a bit useless, the template is of course very valid and consensus has still not been reached. ----Altnabla 16:33, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Changes proposal

...What? Isn't that part of the problem? The people who revert it back are banned too, so why would they do this? - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 14:28, 31 August 2008 (BST)

I proposed that change... the main idea is that the "war" starts, and someone can add that template and hopefully none of the people involved will remove it... If you think that "also revert the page to the version before the "war" started." will not work... remove this from Usage.... And what do you think of the other changes? --Belea2008 chew the fat 14:32, 31 August 2008 (BST)

And I changed it because it doesn't fitted well in Templates page and I like the red colour... --Belea2008 chew the fat 14:34, 31 August 2008 (BST)

The change is alright; I might play around with it too in a second. My problem is that the template is likely to be reverted out, so the people who add it are going to revert it to their version, and thus get involved.

Can you add something about the good faith editors being granted amnesty from taking part? Also, can you enforce a rule similar toWP:3RR? - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S}

Once a finalised template is agreed upon, why not semi-protect it so that anyone can use the template but only Admins and Mods can edit it further?

Paddyohale Feedback? 14:42, 31 August 2008 (BST)

You don't seem to get the point.

During edit wars, people don't care what templates are there or not.
There should not even be a template that says this.
Instead, the one starting the edit war should be banned or warned.
We should have less wannabe mods also and thosewho think they are doing a lot, yet all the they do is working on UK related things while someone else at first worked on the most basic and necessary and important information so that the whole Erepublik can use. --Aryamehr talk 14:46, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Alternative solutions

Any ideas of other solutions so that "edit wars" are avoided? --Belea2008 chew the fat 15:15, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Enforcement of the 3RR is the best I can recommend, aside from generous bannings with a side of block. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 15:26, 31 August 2008 (BST)

I agree with this. ----Altnabla 16:34, 31 August 2008 (BST)

I agree with the 3RR and should be enforced here --Q J Lincoln 18:55, 31 August 2008 (BST)