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Tutorial for Wiki and a contact address

I started off to help this community happily, but unfortunately I do not have much experience with Wiki's. Can I get a MSN address or a contact that I can easily reach to someone who is a Wiki Guru (like Q J)? Also would you agree with me on the fact that a tutorial for using the Wiki should be improved for new Wiki users? Like I don't know how to redirect a page! -- Riza Karabasan suck my balls! 21:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this should go at the bottom, use the + on top next time. You can always look in the Wiki help category. It's sometimes hard to find but it is there. A redirect to lets say Wiki would go like (#redirect[[Wiki]]), without the crickets. --FrerkTalk with me! 06:40, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright that didn't work.. If you have IRC, go to server irc.rizon.net and the channel #wiki --FrerkTalk with me! 06:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

There are already a lot of help features for new wiki editors.

• HELP (linked to Help:Contents is listed on the side bar on the right side of the page. When you click that, there is a menu on the LEFT side with various help items.
• A link to Templates is also on the side bar.
• There is also a eRepublik Official Wiki:Citizen Page Tutorial that is linked in your new user message. This tutorial shows all of the basics of wiki editing, including redirects. The idea is to learn while doing.
• There is also the Wiki Chronicle. This is my newspaper that gives wiki tips to users.

You guys should be thankful, the wiki didn't have 1/4 of this information on it when I started in the summer.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 00:04, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Away

I won't be much online because of my RL. If there is something important contact me via msn(ask address via mp) or leave me a message on my talk page --Mini ^"Template" Bill bother me! 20:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

LangMenu in Cat

We propose the following improvements:

• http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Category%3AEconomy&diff=99042&oldid=99012
• http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Category%3AEkonomija&diff=99041&oldid=99034

What do you think? --Admin 14:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I love it--AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 14:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Good. I have been slowly working on adding the language categories to pages. It is slow work. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:51, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Categories for Translated Pages

To help readers find pages in their language of choice easier, we have instituted a new set of language categories. Authors must manually enter the category that says the name of their language on the page. It is easiest to add the category right after you place the Language Menu at the top of the page. For example, when translating a page in Polski, I would type {{LangMenu}} [[Category:Polski]] at the top of the page and then continue with translation. This will ensure that my page will appear in a category with other articles written in Polski.
Any Questions? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, but do I have to put, for example, on Congress_elections/Hrvatski {{LangMenu}} [[Category:Hrvatski]] or {{LangMenu}} [[Category:Hrvatski]][[Category:Politika]] or is it the best to put {{LangMenu}} [[Category:Politka]]. Politika means Politics on English. --AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 20:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Croatian pages are a bit different because you have translated so much and have categories in Hrvatski. If Politika is a subcategory of Hrvatski, then technically you only need Politika. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

New Syops

Please review the policy draft here User:Belea2008/Sandbox. These are the proposed guidelines for adding new syops to the wiki, based on conversations in the Bar. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 00:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

eRepublik:Janitor process --Admin 23:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguation Pages for non-English languages

I was wondering does translated disambiguation pages have any sense? Disambiguation happens when you search for a world like Company and then wiki gives you multiple choices. On Croatian company = tvrtka. But if you search for Tvrtka on wiki, you won't find Disambiguation Page about tvrtka. Why? Because Disambiguation Page tvrtka can be found only if you search for Company/Hrvatski. The point of my wondering is - do we really need to translate Disambiguation Pages and does that have any sense? --AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 08:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it does not make any sense to translate disambiguation pages. Disambiguation pages are for when a topic could refer to more than one thing, for example, Lhasa could refer to a citizen named Lhasa or the capital of the region of Tibet. Since the words in another language won't be the same, there is no need to translate. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Portal Skeleton

I am working on a new portal in my sandbox, I was wondering where can I find the portal skeleton????? --Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 08:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Portal:India

It is ready I just need to fill in something into the Selected Articles, I cant think of anything to write in there so if someone could plz give suggestion it would be good. Everything else is done, I worked on it for 3 hours and now its finally ready. It can be found at Portal:India , its the first Portal that is ready :) and it is also the first Portal for a country.--Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 21:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any ideas, but I have to say that you have done a great job! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) , if everthing is ok with it I shall start off with Portal:UK--Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 11:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you please change the name to : Portal:United Kingdom? Thanks! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 04:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I havent started work on it as yet so no probs, anyway I am working on Portal:Main Page right now, all help is welcome :) --Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 15:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Lidoxa

Lidoxa asking to move this into the regular namespace. —User:NicolaeCarpathia | | Talk 20:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Please see eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/Debate 10 about religions. All discussions about religions should be held there. For now, almost all religions have been moved out of the main namespace due to a lack of policy. (People have been creating religions willy-nilly anytime they feel like it.) --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 02:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

It says in Bar/Debate 10 to request for transfer to the main namespace in the Bar. So that's what I'm doing. Dioism and Churchism are in the main namespace, and I think Lidoxa should be too. —User:NicolaeCarpathia | | Talk 03:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

OOOPS, my mistake. I have no problems with it being moved back as it had many adherents at one time. However, I thought the religion had died out.... Apparently it has been resurrected like so many other citizens lately ;) --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 04:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I offer a cookie to the first contributor that proposes a policy for religion...?!? --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I started one, I guess I need to finish it.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Navigation

“ I would state that what I detest about the wiki is the weak menu system. The home page contains like 6 main hyperlinks, each linking to a page with a few more links on it. The hub of the wiki seems to be very small, being only a bare guide and 'synopsis' if you will for eRepublik. And yet there seems to be far more information, regarding countries, parties and people hidden away within it. However this information is really quite difficult to access and so I suggest the admin adds in better navigation so that the wiki can be fully explored and read. ”

(http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/87127/wiki-is-lame/2)

Any opinions how to solve this issue? --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 22:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I found the homepage useless too. I always just use "Search" for what I am looking for (just like I do with Wikipedia). I just think we have so many other unresolved issues right now, that this needs to be put on the back burner. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 02:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Portal:Main Page might make it more interesting--Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 15:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be split in categories (countries, link to today's date in History, and that the Game Concepts box should be split in "Basics", "Economy", "Politics", "Military", "Terms" and "Misc". That way it would be faster to find important info. --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 15:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

We should never use Misc. Miscellaneous always becomes a crap category that means nothing. I think the portal is the best direction to go in. But seriously, who relies on the front page?--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

people might start using the front page :P--Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 15:17, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Wiki Purging

From Special:Statistics:

• Registered users: 1,687
• Active users (Users who have performed an action in the last 7 days): 212

1. User and user talk pages of citizens with no contributions or with no useful contributions will be deleted by marking them with Template:Deletion.
2. The Wiki accounts of these citizens will be deleted - using Extension:User Merge and Delete
3. The Wiki accounts of suspended citizens will be deleted or renamed - using Extension:Renameuser (if a suspended citizen does not play eRepublik anymore and it has a Wiki account, it will be deleted)
4. The Wiki accounts of blocked contributors will be deleted.
5. Any contributor may ask to change his/her Wiki username to match his/her citizen name. Any contributor may ask to change his/her username based on other pertinent arguments.
6. After purging is complete, the team will contact the inactive citizens to ask them for their permission to delete their accounts.

What do yo think? --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 00:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I have no problem with this, but I have a few questions.--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 02:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

What do you consider a "Useful contribution"?

Doesn't this go against the plan of giving EVERYONE wiki accounts?

Belea, when you say that wiki users can have their wiki user account name changed, does that mean you can change me wiki account name to Pierricbross? :D Pierric Bross 04:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with this purging, but can I add one more thing? In last few months anyone was able to become an editor, with no limit on editors age, citizen age, his possibilities... Nothing. That increased the number of editors, but unfortunately it didn't increase the number of active editors. Implement some rules. Editing should be honor job, and not some title with which you can brag around and do nothing. --AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 11:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Conquered Regions

I would like to give a refresher on the standard for editing region pages that have been conquered.

• Add the conquering country's flag in the flag field
• Add the original country's flag in the coat of arms field
• Change the country field to the conquering country.
• Change the first sentence of the text to say: "Region is a region of Country A, that was conquered by Country B."
• If the city of the region has a different name in the conquering country's language, feel free to add it as additional information, but do not change it in the template. City names were once meaningful to mayors.
• For neighboring regions, please remember to add the "former region of" designation if needed.

For an example of all of these things, please see Queensland. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

signed Pierric Bross 04:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

agreed--Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 19:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

-nice uniform set or rules for conquered countries. Agreed ------Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 02:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm sorry if I made a mistake earlier... Litro 06:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Litro, welcome to Wiki. We all make mistakes..., the trick is to learn from our past errors. Happy editing. ----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 11:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

No need to apologize! The wiki is an ongoing process, we all learn from each other! PS, keep up the good work Litro!--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Interesting articles

I planned to update some articles, but I don't know how and what to do:

• President and Presidential elections

There is no difference between this two articles and there should be a big difference.

• Party and Party president

Party president doesn't exist. I think that it would be a good idea to create this page to give citizens an idea what does Party President do.

If you agree with this plan I will try to do it, but unfortunately I have a busy schedule in next few days so I will be able to create them in May. So, if you agree and someone else is interested to fulfill this plan, he is more than free to do it. :) --AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 13:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The page, party president should exist. I am now one so I should be able to document the powers of a party president. I believe that the mechanics of a presidential election from the voter side should be covered on the Voting system (it isn't). Some of the powers of a president are listed on the Country administration page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

template problem on Croatian articles

OK, maybe I am crazy, but it seems that there is a problem with templates on Croatian articles. Why do I mean that? Because I have translated templates RawMaterials and ProductsNavigation and now it seems that they don't work as {{RawMaterials}} and {{ProductsNavigation}} on Croatian pages unless I put them as {{RawMaterials/Hrvatski}} and {{ProductsNavigation/Hrvatski}}. I mean, this is not a problem for me, I will correct the templates on the next update, but then some port of this templates are not needed. Can someone check what is the problem. I believe that the problem occurred after wiki update.--AndyCro If you have a suggestion... 13:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Umm, call me idiot, but where is the problem here? --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 09:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Because it should work without putting /Hrvatski (eg. {{RawMaterials}}, {{ProductsNavigation}}) -- Grzechooo (his discussion) 12:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wait, you can't possibly do that without HTTP referral information --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 13:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Introduction

Hello, I'm Starks Hayter. I'm an Irish congressman and entrepreneur. I'm just introducing myself here, I plan to be doing a lot of the major updates for Ireland, since no-one else seems to be doing it. I've already updated some of the politicians, as well as my own page. Cheers. Starks Hayter 15:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: By the way, I was making a page on a bill I proposed, Referendum Policy and Referendum Organisation. I couldn't find a template that makes a box on the side for bills (name, author, votes, date). Does something like that exist? Starks Hayter 15:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it doesn't, but it shouldn't be hard to made after I finish my "Organization" template. By the way, you should introduce yourself in Community Portal, not here ;) --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 15:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Ahh, sorry about that, I'll head over there now. Starks Hayter 16:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Not many bills are introduced here. They are usually introduced in the eRepublik forum or in private forums. Only bills that are approved, thus are in fact contracts, should really be recorded here for historical reference. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

This bill was approved, I just didn't want it to get lost in the forums. The page is ok as it, I guess. Starks Hayter 17:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome! --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

PROMOTIONS

Since we've only nominated two EREP:UBER so far this year, I'm going to nominate three just to trump that number. Screw this "one at a time" thing; we're missing a lot of great editors because we've been so lax with nominations.

Congratulations, Srachit, Grzechooo, and Martin23230! Welcome to the mile-high club! - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 04:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Your contributions have been integral to the wiki!--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 04:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, I forgot something: you have to walk ten meters across hot coals to receive your gold star. Good luck! - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 04:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both so much. It is a great honour. It is a good thing my feet are made of iron!--Martin23230 08:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

A small gift/preview. Good things come from those who finish revising...--Martin23230 08:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations to all of you! --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 17:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Hoping you'll keep up the good work :) (Long time lurker. Don't ask...)--kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 17:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

thanks a lot :) --Mr.Srachit (talk with me) 20:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations to all of you again and again and again and again...! May you contribute much and well! --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Chat

http://wiki.erepublik.com/chat/ - give it a try and leave a comment with what you think. Thanks in advance! --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 17:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

It says "Invalid Username" when I try to login :/ --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 17:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I got the same error when I tried using my regular login information. Just enter without a password. - –Dr. AgentChieftain ^“PPP!” _{B / C / D / F / P / S} 17:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks like it would make a very useful tool for group discussions, good job Starks Hayter 22:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Invalid username.... What is wrong with #wiki? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I managed to login somehow but when I tried to login again now, I got "Username in Use" error --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 16:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You can log into Wiki-Ajax Chat, but do NOT use Password.
Leave PASSWORD text-box BLANK. If you enter your Password you will receive "Invalid username" error.----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 03:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I got into it, but there's nobody in there -- User:Frerk 14:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Okays... Why is there no IPB style? :P I like it, especially its design ;) Come on people, get in! :) --kalamarko92 (vodonoša) - me chat 09:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

As all of you have noticed by now, the chat has no user integration at the moment. Therefore, you (we) can only login as anonymous users. Other Chat solutions for the Wiki:

• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:IRC_Chat (I've never tried PJIRC, so I cannot say how good it is as an IRC client)
• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mibbit (I personally like this one, because it can be used with the current #wiki we have) (Wiki users integration is not supported :D)
• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-protocol_notification (kind of complicated)

If you have other alternatives, leave a comment so we can try them. We'll have to decide on one of them.

--Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 22:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Lewdaism

I once again ask for Lewdaism to be reviewed for inclusion into the Wiki. It has been a labor of love that I have waited patiently to see re-included. Can we make this happen? --Geno Garon : Just trying to get by... 08:23, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you propose a religion policy? --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

New Help Item - Translating Pages

I have created (stealing most of my text from MiniBill's hints) a new Help page for translating pages. Find it at Help:Translating Pages. I suggest ALL people that translate pages take a look at it (some information is new) and pass the link along to your fellow translators. Thanks! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 03:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Nice idea. An nice to see you around more often! :D --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Moldavia Wiki Page

I've been working on this over the past two days and am progressing well. If there are any other small country pages which need some chunks of data, I'm willing to help.--Malta 1990 20:05, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Need any help? --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Citizen Error on Organization?

I have an error on my page The Authority Bank of Commerce and it is reflecting that there is a conflict between the organization template and a citizen template. I have never put a citizen template on the page and I checked the wiki...no one else has either. Any remedies or suggestions?
I also checked other organizations such as Florida Commerce Bank and they do not have these errors. - Jewitt / 21:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Where are you getting an error? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 23:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Now it isn't there? Odd. It was the default picture of the Citizen Template beside the organization template (shifting the org template over to the left respectively) and the text ['[Template:citizen]'] (without the ') above the inuse banner. Oh well, fixed now. - Jewitt / 23:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Solved and gixed! --Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 15:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Images

Just a quick question, do we have to upload every image to use it or can we link directly from the web. [[picture.jpg|left|frame|Text]]<---this is what I have used

[[www.website/images.jpg|left|frame|Text]]<-----can this work? Halve

Just playing around a bit and using the "PREVIEW" button I found out that it does not work. - Jewitt / 18:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

So any images I want to use I need to upload? Halve

Yes. You must upload images to the wiki to use them. See Help:Editing#Images. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 19:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I have not seen uglier skin in my life.

Can we have the old one back? Or allow the old one to exist and make a new skin for the new skin. Now I have to change to modern because it's the only next-good one but kinda hard to get used to.--Aryamehr talk 13:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Special:Preferences > Skin > MonoBook - try it now! (it's the old MonoBook skin without any modifications)

Also, please explain the reasons behind your consideration. Thanks in advance for the help!

--Geo "Talk Pages" Belea 14:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Yo. It's working now thanks. --Aryamehr talk 15:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Why I hate it? a) The colors are too light (too bright), b) The text is too big (Recent Changes for example). --Aryamehr talk 14:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)