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Important regarding Rising (V2) implementation

Please do NOT overwrite old menu images.
These articles have to be updated:

• Weapon -- sampo555 | Talk
• Wars -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN
• War
• Tutorial
• Taxes -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 06:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
• Resistance war
• Region productivities - already done
• Region sampo555 | Talk
• Homepage
• Gold
• FAQ - old FAQ should be reviewed and the things from it should be added
• Employee details
• Daily tasks
• Companies for sale -- sampo555 | Talk
• Change residence ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (:
• Average production cost
• Template:RawMaterialsNavigation/Latviešu
• Template:RawMaterialsNavigation/Eesti
• Template:RawMaterialsNavigation/Portugues Brasileiro
• Template:RawMaterialsNavigation/Српски

When you update something, just cross it down. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 13:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Reviewed and tasks that were not completed were added to the TO DO list. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 11:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Need lots of help here

Ok, you have started creating rising pages, but eRepublik Rising? -- McKayRO -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 13:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand one thing: what is the purpose of the page? To summarize the changes between V1 and Rising? --Belea2008 08:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

To write a review about updates that have been aplied to the game. Maybe someone wants to see the game's evolution. -- McKayRO -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 07:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Cool idea... let us know with what exactly do you need our help. --Belea2008 15:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually just to improve the page and add it on menu rising or link from word rising. And later maybe a update template - McKayRO -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 18:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

First impression: I like. A LOT. It provides an outline without being too simplistic, and has enough links so that readers can find out more about what interests them most. Good job! -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I am so excited. This is the first time in this wiki i do something really good. :* YAY :D -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 15:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Rewards for August

The list of people that will get a reward for August can be found here. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Help: Translate error

Hi guys, I have some question... a user edit the Soldier/Español page to Soldado, but I want to edit that change and I can't, please somebody revert that, and... about that, I don't know (and I can't find) what are the template to report problems. Thanks! -- iVicentico (Leave you complaint here) 03:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Done it was just moved! ;) -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 05:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

VERY IMPORTANT - CITIZEN TEMPLATE!

For new wiki users it is very hard to upload new avatar picture so i made a new Citizen/Core here: User:McKayRO/Sandbox/Template:Citizen/Core. I just don't know if it'll appear on top on picture. My first template!- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 15:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

V2 for template! I solved all things, now i know how to use templates! You can check User:McKayRO/Sandbox/Template:Citizen/prev to preview it. If anything, just write ME a message! To see what needs to be copy/pasted check User:McKayRO/Sandbox/Template:Citizen/temp! -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 17:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be better if you use the "if" clause to make it show only when an avatar is missing,
other than that, I can't see why not. +1 --DanielDimow|☪|Speak to me. 10:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks 4 the tip! Everything is fixed! - McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 05:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

+1 If you can make something to remove it once a image is there, I don't see why it can't be there. Rowan Quigley ^{Talk to me!} 04:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It is not showing when an image is there! Check preview, not the Core! - McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 05:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm a very lazy person, so I don't check things :P Rowan Quigley ^{Talk to me!} 05:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, changed!!! -- McKayRO|Say hello! 12:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Future Productivity Formula

We know? --Marnes 17:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Productivity -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 18:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

No, we don't (if you mean the formula Admins are talking about). That is the current one. -- sampo555 | Talk 15:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Admin still havent fully decided upon the new formula yet. When they do, we will be the first citizens to know (because we update the wiki, and the information spreads from there!) -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 04:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The only thing that changed in new formula is "B" witch is 4 for skill lvl 1, 4,4 Slvl 2, 4,8 Slvl 3... 7,6 Skill level 10 (Grunky Muu).

Main Page Translation

The main page still shows the "Do not translate this portal" warning, but it says only till the end of August, we are already in September.. So, are we already allowed to translate it? :D Gulitiwi 02:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 14:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Main Page can be translated now. Info how to translate can be found on Talk:Main Page. If you have any questions, I am here somewhere. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 10:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Rewards

Given:

• eRepublik Official Wiki:Rewards/2010/June
• eRepublik Official Wiki:Rewards/2010/July
• eRepublik Official Wiki:Rewards

Could someone please leave a message on talk pages of all those people and say thank you from the team?

Also, taking into account that the "extra storage tool" was (finally) fixed; I (we) can add the rewards as soon as the final list for one month is ready. Just leave a message in the Bar or in my talk page about it. --Belea2008 08:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

All people have messages on their talk pages. Congratulations one more time. Great work everyone, even Timeoin. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 18:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank Andy :D /me gives a cookie to Andycro ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 07:38, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Lol Andy :D -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 08:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Question

What is this: http://support.erepfrance.com/index.php/EReplicants:Current_events - beside the fact that it is a Wiki in French related to eRepublik? I'm more interested in that To Do List.... --Belea2008 11:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

this is the wiki support of the ereplicant community. At the start this community is french (but we accept all ppl :P) for developing platform for erepublik. the main project of the community is the french portal, we manage the portal, the forum, the SSO system, and others little projects. ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 12:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Haha. "Add Lulz Domain" :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 03:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

It's for the french luls ministry :P ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 07:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Medals

If have add some medals on my template (Template:Medals#Notice), but someone know who did the Peace logo ? because the medals effect is pretty ugly on it :P ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 16:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
For PEACE use and for Phoenix use User_talk:Ali Emami

Nice thank ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 00:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I believe this topic has been discussed in the past. It was decided to not use these, because they are not "quantifiable" medals. I.e. Hard worker, etc, it is obvious how many the citizen has earnt? -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 03:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

never see that before tim, and onestly, who cares ? :P It's medals more fr fun than other thing, but if you want, we can define how works this one. ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 07:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Who ever keeps stealing Azaret's letters from him, can they please stop it ? Its "ery" annoying :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 03:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

my keyboard dislike me :'( ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 13:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I have a collection of letters and I haven't finished it yet, so I have to steal other peoples to get it finished. Sorry for the confusion :P Rowan Quigley ^{Talk to me!} 13:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

No roblem ;p -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Professions

There aren't 11 professions any more. So all the pages that have information about professions HAVE to change. Also, do we know anything about the components of the products and who produce them??? Chris Christou | Talk to me 15:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Short answer: No. Admin are hiding the Productivity formula (i think the current term is "Great Library Fire" or something) -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 00:27, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Emoticons

I have made a template for emoticons !

THAT IS ME LOL

I will ad more emoticons soon! ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 17:35, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Remember, we already have a lot in the system - See category:emoticons --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, didn't know, srr ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 05:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Category Review

I have been reviewing the wiki categories, trying to leave you all with a better sense of order. Making these changes will increase consistency in category names, reduce redundancy, and make it easier for both readers and editors to find. Unfortunately, changing a category name usually means making a change on every page in the category (unless there is a template). Please attend to these issues when you get a chance.

• Branches of the British Armed Forces, Regiments of the British Army, Ships of the Royal Navy, United Kingdom Armed Forces…. These are four categories that are used redundantly. This is my suggestion to make it cleaner and fit with the other categories:
  • Replace United Kingdom Armed Forces with Category:Military of United Kingdom.
    • Note that Category:United Kingdom Armed Forces is nominated for deletion.

But Military of United Kingdom isn't even gramatically correct! :( I'm thoroughly disappointed - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 20:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

• • Create a hierarchy. Category:Military of United Kingdom with subcategories of Category:Military of United Kingdom – Branches, Category:Military of United Kingdom – Regiments, Category:Military of United Kingdom – Royal Navy. Pages in the subcategory only need the subcategory on them.

Why does category:united kingdom armed forces have to be replaced? Frankly, "military of X" is a naff template name. If anything, we should change all of them TO CountryName Armed Forces.

Branches of the British Armed Forces, Regiments of the British Army, and United Kingdom Armed Forces are updated and added to often, as the British Armed Forces expand and/or change organizationally.

We already HAVE an up-to-date hierarchy of operational units here. It is put on all operational unit pages for easy navigation. Non-operational units' pages (e.g the Royal Navy) are not included in the hierachy, because they are not IN the hierachy. They were in another system of hierachy altogether when they WERE operational! - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 16:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Too late to change the categories "Military of X". That naming convention is based on "organizations of X", companies of X, etc. I am not married with changing the names of the UK's subcategories. I suggested it so that when you look at the category list, you don't have to search far. But the main category should be changed for regularity. You misunderstand what I mean by hierarchy. Pages that are in a subcategory, like "Regiments of the British Army" should only have the category "Regiments of the British Army". If it is also categorized as "Military of United Kingdom"/"UK Armed Forces" then it is redundant because Regiments is a sub category of the UK Armed forces. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah I see. "Too late to change the categories "Military of X". - could we not use a script that'd change the categories for us? I really do prefer XX Armed Forces - it's more grammatically correct for the United Kingdom as a country name. (Category:Military of X does not have a "the" in it). Also, it shows the full country name, not just "UK". Regularity isn't too much of a concern. eSA, eUSA and eUK all used XX Armed Forces, and no one would look at that category name and think HIGHLY IRREGULAR, HMPH :P

However, I'll remove the categories from "redundant"'d pages :) - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 17:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Done! - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 21:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

We don't really have anyone skilled or with the time to create renaming bots. I have wanted one for a long time, but we never got one up and running. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 13:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... *googles creating wiki bots* - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 16:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Seems you can make a bot with php code! I know basic PHP and I have a couple of friends in the eUK who are professional PHP coders... if we COULD ask them to make a bot, would changing Category:Military of X to Category:XX Armed Forces be agreeable? - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 17:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not know... Croatia Armed Forces seem like that this is not gramatically correct... It should be Croatian Armed Forces. I do not know for the other nations, but I believe that only big named countries that you mentioned would apply for this Armed Forces naming system. For now I am undecided 0--AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 17:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

We could create a bot that changes specific Category:Military of A to Aian Armed Forces, Military of B to B Armed Forces etc. - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 18:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

• Category:Organizations of United Kingdom should be Category:Organizations of UK. If you want to change UK to United Kingdom, all pages in the category must be changed.
  • Done. I'll add a notice to the template that people use UK instead of United Kingdom. edit: What do you know, there already is a notice.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 08:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
• Category:People of United Kingdom should be Category:People of UK.
  • Done. I'll add a notice to the template that people use UK instead of United Kingdom. edit: What do you know, there already is a notice.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 08:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
• United States Armed Forces change all pages to Category:Military of USA.
  • Done.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 08:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
• We need consistency in the naming of Congress List Categories. The pages in the following categories should be changed to "Congress of [Country]."
  • Category:Croatian Congresses
    • Category deleted and replaced by Category:Congress of Croatia. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Category:German Congresses
    • Category WILL BE deleted and replaced by Category:Congress of Germany, but I am creating a template for Congresses so that I don't have to edit the same pages several times. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
      • Done ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 13:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Category:Turkish Congresses
    • Category deleted and replaced by Category:Congress of Turkey. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Category:U.S. Congresses
    • Category is found on the {{USCongresses}} which has to be dramatically changed so that pages are standardized to Congress of USA - Month and the year of the Congress. Are there any volonters to move / update the pages? While we wait for the volonters, I have created --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
      • You've got one ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 13:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
• Combine the categories Category:Unreferenced articles and Category:Unreferenced pages. I think this has something to do with changing the categories on the templates used on these pages.
  • Done. I decided to delete Category:Unreferenced pages because the template using it was created before, and "article" sounds more official. I also believe it is more accurate a term. If we want to use the other category instead, just edit Template:Unreferenced and Template:Ref/? accordingly. -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 09:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
• Reduce subcategories in Category:Dioism. The information is not diverse or so much that most of these subcategories can be dropped. I think you might have to change templates for this.
• Remove these categories from the wiki all together WikiProject Australia pages, WikiProject Canada pages, WikiProject Military Articles, WikiProject Thailand Pages. There is absolutely NO NEED for these categories. If something falls under a wikiproject, it is best to put a notation on the Category page instead of marking every page. See Category:Thailand for an example.
  

This is a job any editor can do (except if it means changing templates). Most of these changes should only take a few minutes. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I have a question regarding categorization of old articles which are now on One namespace. On many translated articles there are two categories: Category:Version1 and language category. Wouldn't it be better that we create around 20 new categories named Version 1 name of the language so that only one category should be on the translated articles? Example Category:Version1 Hrvatski. I have to mentioned that there are created categories One:Economy, etc. which I think that we DO NOT NEED and that regular Version1 is enough. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I added them, Andy. They were the ones that I saw in the main economy section, and there was quite a lot of them, so I thought it made sense to make a category for them in the One namespace as well. I have no objection to them being removed if they are unnecessary - theres been a heck of a lot of updating happening the last few months, and Im not perfect :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 11:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)-- Timeoin|Say G'Day 11:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

+1 for Andy's idea about version 1 categories for each language. It can be easily done with the {{Version1}} template (no need to update all pages manually). -- sampo555 | Talk 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

-1 to Sampo555 saying that there was no need to update all the pages manually, after I have spent the last 2 months doing just that! -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:23, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Timeoin. I better say: "There is no need to do it again to add categories." Like it now? (but when it comes to deleting language categories, we'll have to do it again) -- sampo555 | Talk 16:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Idea about what happened to the productivity formula:

On Day (whatever it was), one of the Admins became clinically depressed. This can be directly contributed to their lack of happiness, which in turn was likely brought out about by their inability to chill out. As a result of this, they decided to try and destroy anything and everything they could. In the process, the managed to destroy the only known productivity formula in existence. Many lives were lost in this fire, and at the end of it all, very few people in the eWorld survived. Those that survived forgot how to be Architects, Builders, and so on, and instead focused on the one generic Economy skill, figuring that such skills helped the Economy anyway. It is unknown which Admin it was that went crazy, but was is known that they perished in the fire that burnt down the Great Library Just wanted to share my little burst of insanity with you all :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 12:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Updated, with more links, to further prove my insanity :D Hope at least SOMEONE enjoyed reading this - and if not - well too bad :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I lol'd this is epic and should be archived -- bowen199

https://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Formulas

https://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/The_Great_Fire_of_the_Library

--Belea2008 09:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It is too bad admins didn't perish in that fire. We would all be better off with formulas and no admins than vice versa.--Quicksilver 11:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

This has now been added to The Great Fire of the Library page. If people want to add to that story, feel free. Or add ideas to it here and I'll try and make it into a story :D Let's see what we can come up with, people! -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 12:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Check my ideas lol ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 14:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Dissolve company

Q: "I would like to dissolve a company. What happens with company money and gold that is in reserve?"

A: They are moved in the accounts of the owner in the same way as "Collect money" works (as in, taxes are subtracted from them and then added to the owner's accounts) --Belea2008 16:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Retirement

To the entire Wiki Community:
I will be retiring from the wiki at the end of September. As most of you have noticed, I haven't been as active in the wiki. I don't really have the time or desire anymore. My job, other interests, and personal life have become more important. I also feel like I have done all I can for the wiki. I am proud of the work I have done here and very lucky to have become friends with many of you. But, it is time to hand it over to a new group.

I will be around for the rest of the month to wrap up any remaining projects. If you have any questions, please leave me a note on my user talk page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 20:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

We'll miss you. You've done great things to the wiki. I'm sad to see you go. Good luck for your "new life". -- sampo555 | Talk 04:40, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

You are unique! Be proud, be you; thank you for everything! With a tear in my eyes, just Geo! --Belea2008 07:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Noooooooooooooooooo, my American queen is leaving me... Darling QJ, you have done a great job for the wiki and I (we) will miss you and your advice a lot... --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 14:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Goodbye. You did a lot of great work with the Wiki. We'll miss you much. -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 10:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

NOooooooooooo! No! I cannot belive that! Tell me is a very bad joke please! You have done great things for the wiki, why to retire? We'll die!!! If it is true, bye! -- McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 05:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you're able to move on. Managing Wiki isn't our obligation. It is, or at least it is supposed to be, a hobby, so the moment it doesn't feel right anymore, it's time to step back. I wish you all the best in your real life. o/ -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 05:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I wish you the best on this planet! ~~ McKayRO Talk a little -- TRANSLATE AND DESIGN 05:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Wait, what? I go away for a week, and suddenly QJ is leaving? NOOOOOOOO!!!!! We'll miss you greatly, QJ! -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:22, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Good bye! -- McKayRO|Say hello! 11:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Wiki will never be the same. Still, as Kuhaa said, "if it doesn't feel right anymore, it's time to step back". Also, today's Erepublik is just not the World we (old-timers) used to live and play. Best wishes QJ. Enjoy your next adventure.----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 01:48, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

About formulas

The eRepublik team will not longer make public any formulas of the game for the following reasons:

• The game should be very intuitive when it comes to formulas.
• Formulas should be something that it can be guessed; thus be rewarding for those that find it out.

On formula pages which are no longer up to date, the following text will be added: "The eRepublik Library caught fire on Day 1023 of the New World. Unfortunately, the documentation for the formula described below was lost in that fire. No other documentation will be created by archivists. There are rumors that a few citizens are trying to replicate the new formula and document it." ( you can improve that text any time; like adding Day 1000 instead of 1023 OR adding more emerging user story to the fact that the formula will not be officially updated)

Here's an example: Productivity

What happens if a citizen "guesses" the formula and puts in the Wiki? Just change the text to something like: "The eRepublik Library caught fire on Day 1023 of the New World. Unfortunately, the OFFICiAL documentation for the formula described below was LOST in that fire. This article is created using hints provided by a few citizens who tried to replicate the new formula and document it."

The team will never confirm or deny the accuracy of an in-game formula.

Feel free to post any questions or suggestions. --Belea2008 09:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Im all for anything which makes life harder for cheaters! :D -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 09:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm not really agree with this, but doesn't matter (I'm not sure that know formulas help for cheat Tim xD), by the way, French and Spanish pages up to date ! ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 11:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

The said that they were fixing the productivity formulas to make it more productive for new employees. Well... that would mean that there was MUCH MUCH more incentive for immoral players to cheat. By hiding the formula, noone knows the EXACT amount of production by new players (or other players anymore) - so noone knows the exact risk/payoff ratio, anymore. -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 11:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

This idea isn't good at all. How many citizens want to start a company if they can't know how much that company will produce? Not many. But I think that our opinions doesn't matter. -- sampo555 | Talk 13:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

This is a horribly bad idea. The first thing many citizens do with bought gold is start companies. Admin are driving away the very people they most want to stick around to pay for gold.--Endy chat 18:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

WE NEED FORMULAS! --Marnes 19:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Without formulas, company owners won't know their profit/losses, cost prices etc. It will become too risky to run companies and they will just shut down, increasing unemployment, not decreasing it like this idea is meant to. This is one of the most retarded ideas they have ever come out with. Viado Celtru

This isn't our problem, its the Admins, you make a ticket and let them not answer it. Rowan Quigley ^{Talk to me!} 01:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, this is just getting ridiculous. By trying to fix the economy, the Admin have decided to just make it to where "Hey, we're not going to tell you how your company runs, so just take a guess and hope for the worst!" I really am disappointed in the latest decisions. - Jewitt / Hatemail is appreciated! 03:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

New players earning more actually increases Cheating (in the form of generating millions of fakes). One method against fakes would be to have captcha in the registration process (which afaik is not implemented, even though it's the simplest thing...for a real programmer). Anyway, is there any meaning of writing wiki articles from now on? I was waiting for erep to "stabilize" so I can start translating articles again, but this is just becoming a big mess... Amrod Falassion 06:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

A question for Belea, that concern all formulas ? just for be sure before edit all pages ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 07:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

The new "policy" involves all formulas. Like I said in the beginning of the conversation, anyone can "guess" the new productivity formula. Thus, the first of the tools (or the one which has the most accurate results) (and others):

• http://erepublik.kazequotes.com/
• http://www.cccp-group.org/index.php?page=erep_prodcalc
• http://erepublik.ws/productivity
• http://www.erep.cc/tools/productivity

will be more successful in the long term.

And one last detail, no one stops any citizen to publish an article with presumptions or insightful information about any formula.

--Belea2008 09:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, no problems :) ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 09:31, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

http://forum.erepublik.com/showthread.php/102615-open-letter-to-admins-WE-NEED-FORMULAS Please sign it --Marnes 10:56, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

lol, I think open a debate could be more constructive before cry to murder (without argues) ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 11:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I so fully agree with what Azaret said. :( :) --Belea2008 12:20, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, people start to speculate and edit formulas, what I propose it's to keep the last known formulas, and add a 'speculation' section on formulas pages, and on the same idea, add the message about this measure on the summary page of formulas, with referrer to this page in all formulas page ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 13:11, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Nice idea. Go for it! --Belea2008 13:17, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

In my oppinion thats a bad idea. Formula pages are supposed to be informativ, the change proposed by Azaret will make them extremly confusing over time.

Please simply use the changed template like proposed at the begining of this discussion - I don't like this whole "admins refuse/are to lazy to give us information thing but don't make it even worse. Greetings, the first mythfinder --NosFi 15:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm totally agree with that if pages are informative, but, it's not the case anymore, at least until admins decide to communicate formulas again. so all you can write now, is purely speculation, and not sure. The fire idea, it's just for make it more 'funny' and roleplay than just write "admin decide to don't give formulas anymore", then to keep the last known version and have a separate section for players speculations are better, because not everybody will be agree for these formulas, for example, on my article someone post a different solution than yours. ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 15:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

1.) Please point me to that articel. I want to check that second solution

2.) In case we have to different formulas and can't agree on which one is the correct own we can still write both into the articel. The formulas will continue to change and the old one's posted by the admins will soon be completle useless. If we implement all changes according to your idea no one will be able to find out which formula is the right one. --NosFi 15:57, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

sorry, I checked but was not here I saw it, I don't retrieve it. Well, as I said to Belea, let's other said what they think about that because I'm not sure we'll be agree :D ~~ Azaret déjame un mensaje (: 16:13, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I think it`s bad idea to play in "guess the formula". In most cases companies runs with very small profit because salaries and prices wars. 20gold (and it`s for q1-companies only!) is pretty hard and long time to take back from companies profit. Companies management it`s about fun, not profit. But no profit at all - no fun at all. GMs need 100% accurate formulas to compute prices and salaries, or it`s become a lottery. Not only productivity formula, but other too, because there is need to decide customization and so on.Olesxander 17:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Merged the two different theories into a single article. The theories could start piling up though, not really sure how long this is going to work. --Endy chat 19:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Belea - it seems pretty unanimous - many many people dislike this new "no-formulas" idea. -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I simplified the page + I left only one calculator on the page - the one that claims that it is using the new formulas. --Belea2008 13:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Twitter said it - it MUST be true! :P -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 00:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Look what I found

--Belea2008 08:21, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I found that too somewhere. Beta was great. -- Grzechooo ^{drop a line} 12:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to know beta. Unfortunately, screenshots and informations in wiki is very little :( --Marnes 22:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Wow. 34,000 citizens. Thats like ... Poland and Serbia combined :) (or, in version 1, half of one of those countries!) -- Timeoin|Say G'Day 23:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Should you really be publishing the next NEW version of eRepublik here?

It should be kept secret, just like the formulas.

You have even published the future- expected population figures: 18983.

Honestly.----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 02:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

It looks cool. When it will be implemented? :D --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 10:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Categories Pt 2

The templates show up in the category "People of eRepublik". Templates should only show up in template categories.Is there a way to remove the categories from showing up on this?

• Template:NCitizen
• Template:NCitizen/doc

I thought we had talked about changing this template's category to just "Party Alliances" instead of specific countries.

1. Party Alliances of Bulgaria (2 members)
2. Party Alliances of Chile (2 members)
3. Party Alliances of Italy (1 member)
4. Party Alliances of eRepublik
5. Historical Party Alliances of Serbia (1 member)

Done ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 13:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

My thought is that the party alliance template should create "Category:Party Alliances". Then users can add the additional category of "Category:Parties of [country]" so that it shows up in the category with the other parties of the country.

I think we can put both, but for now, don't know... 0 ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 16:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

We dropped the orientation category from the party template. However, these pages are still creating the categories. I believe that this means a template change/update.

1. Far-Left Parties (4 members)
2. Far-Right Parties (9 members)
3. Center-Right Parties (11 members)
4. Center Parties (15 members)

Done ~~ McKayRO|Say hello! 16:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Vertical Clade?

So, I'm working on a project to show military units of erepublik armed forces, (see User:John F Baker/app6a and User:John F Baker/app6a/title for more info) with nato-stylized diagrams - it's ideal, with the different ingame weapon types :) I've got all the content sorted, but now I've got to the point where I want to make hierachy lines to turn a table into a proper chart. Template:clade only seems to work sideways, although the style is ideal :( Anyone know a "vertical clade"-like template, or know how to make one? My aim is to make a sub-template that'd allow a user to plugin the units, and it'd make the vertical chart FOR them, without them having to hardcode all the lines :) - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 22:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Family_tree - that's the best one I could find here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Genealogy_formatting_templates --Belea2008 09:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, never came across the category :) I'll have a look, thanks! - John F Baker ^talk/_{British Army librarian} 16:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The delete page

(Log here http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Special:Log/delete) I found that QJ Lincoln deleted this page [[1]] And QJ Lincoln left the message below: (langauge category not correct, and already have pages in the two chinese forms) But QJ Lincoln recover this page [[2]]

So, anyone can tell me that Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese are the same language on erepublik wiki? --BillWilson 05:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

As I don't speak Chinese, I am not 100 % sure, but according to the Jameson they are not the same language! --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 08:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I think you should talk also with QJ about it. --Belea2008 09:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

They are dialects of the same language, but we had enough requests to have both of them. The pages were deleted because they had the wrong category/ One I figured was an error by comparing a few things. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 13:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

New military module update

Update pages about military module, please--Marnes 18:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

It is still beta and under testing. --Quicksilver 19:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

No one knows anything more about the new module than the insider tells. -- sampo555 | Talk 07:11, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I know.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 16:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)