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Here are some active discussion about wiki.

Discussion 1: Deleting stubs

A discussion with divided opinion. Two persons supported that we could delete stubs - three persons didn't support it. Some points from the discussion:

  1. It's not right to just delete them, it's all part of eRepublik history.
  2. I cannot think of a better way to clean up the wiki than to get rid of pages that are never updated.
  3. Just because no one has the time to improve a page, it does not mean that the mentioned page should be deleted. If we start deleting them, it would be like saying to those few contributors that their effort was for nothing.
  4. Org stubs don't really give much historical information aside from their one-time existence. Companies change hands fairly often.

So no real consensus: let the discussion continue. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 06:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Regarding deleting stubs. Are we supposed to discuss this here?

Anyway. Deleting stubs is stupid. It means deleting history. Let's take myself as example, my page has been stub for a long time. For me it is because of some real life and technical problems which I hope to solve soon and be able to copy paste a text that a friend wrote in it. Let's take Person X as example. Person X played during beta. Not many people know him. Someone who knew him, created a page about him. There are not much info no, but atleast people know that persone existed. Deleting that is like that person did not exist.

What harm does it make for stubs to exist? Let stubs be. Let them grow. Sooner or later there will be people willing to fill them out. Maybe somebody in future loves to go through old newspaper articles, and those - believe me - have a lot of information that the wiki does not have.

--Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 21:53, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion 2: Fictional content in user pages

The discussion about fictional content in user space has many good points:

  1. The sandbox is a page designed for testing and experimenting with wiki syntax. However, it must not be used for malicious purposes.
  2. Main idea: if a contributor has imagination; let him/her. If that same contributor wants to have 10, 20, 100, 100, 5000 sandbox pages - the same contributor should be allowed to (the "malicious purposes" still stands).
  3. Players should be able to create their own personal history, religion, clubs, groups, etc. But I think there should be a line drawn when it conflicts with and is outside of the scope of the game.
  4. My recommendation is to use a tagging template system to label content that is outside the scope of the game, or essentially user-created.
  5. I'm hesitant about prohibiting editors to have a little fun with the game by being creative.

No real consensus here either so we'll keep discussion going. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 06:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion 3: Flag ball icons of fictional countries

There is over 100 national icons (flag balls) in the wiki. However there is only 69 countries. This means there is about 30 FlagBalls that don't belong to official countries of eRepublik. And also great part of those 30 isn't used anywhere. Here are some comments about the issue:

  1. Just leave em IMO, better to have em and wait for them to become useful
  2. My proposal is: create Category:Flag Ball Icons to put ALL the ballflags that aren0t countries of eRepublik, and keep Category:National Icons only for flags.

Not a huge discussion but I'm favoring the latter idea. Let us categorize Official National FlagBalls to one category and rest somewhere else (like we do with the Flags and Coats now)--Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 06:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Guess it's been already done? ||||||Khebit TC| 17:25, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion 4: Languages

Some time ago I was gathering data about number of pages in languages. You can see it here. The data is about one month old, but shows the trends. As you can see, we have completely "dead" languages like Urdu, Japanese or Korean. What should we do with them? --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 15:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

  1. I'd remove those languages.--Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 15:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
  2. I would remove only articles of those languages, as they supposedly are not too up to date, but not entire language. There might be still some contributors. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 21:33, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Let the discussion continue on this matter too! --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 06:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Translations on alliances

Do we need them?, most of those haven't been updated for about 7 months now, even with outdated tags on them for about 5 months. Well imo they wont give any accurate info to people about those alliances. ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 09:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Don't agree. Then we can use the same principle for majority of other translated pages... Better to put 'outdated tag' on old articles. --Icon-Croatia.png Dalibor / Talk 10:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
there have been "outdated tags" on them for over 5 months, simply enough no one cares about them. ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 10:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
bump ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 00:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Country pages being out of date

I know this has been a problem on the wiki since it started with pages being out of date and other countries' pages having more or less information then others. I recently checked the Republic of Moldova page and noticed it still has the High, Medium and Low resource table which has been gone for several months. I think we should have a standard template, that information can only be added in those fields and make it a page that can be edited easily depending on what section needs to be updated. I understand countries have History, meaning we can create another page like History of (country name). I think this would really help with people looking for information as well as those who are trying to add it. Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 00:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

If you mean totally standardizing the country pages, and making the totally the same, then I strongly disagree. It is not a solution for updating pages.--Quicksilver 06:30, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 I think that standardizing the pages would be good move, it would be nice that every country has same basic informations, and another page with country's history...----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 08:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
-1 I'm against standardising pages. It's crappy looking at the same thing everywhere and as it is, editors (and different countries) are given creative freedom. - Zamrg 08:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 To a basic format, but I would agree that other than the template structure, wiki editors should be able to mould the page format a bit. - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 09:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

If you ever go through with this needless uniformisation, I want to save/archive the Hungarian country page as it is now, for historical reasons, and stop updating it/anything else. I simply hate when some poeple want to force everything to be the same.--Quicksilver 12:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

+1 I think that standardizing the pages would be a very good move, it could have a couple of modifications, but on the same basis. It would be nicer if it's mostly the same, that way people can be more oriented, so if they see some information in one country page, they can know exactly were to find it on another country page, plus it would be easier to update it. - Ingame54 Icon-Macedonia.png Talk/Makedonska falanga 02:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
You see standardisation on wikipedia, in encylopedias, dictionaries etc, because it makes the location of information obvious to the reader. What's your gripe? I think we all sometimes forget this is supposed to be an encyclopedia of the game, not a sketchbook/notepad/diary for people... - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 19:03, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

It is a contribution of people. Different people from different countries, backgrounds, habits and likes. Different views, tastes, and yes, different ways of contributing, writing about a thing, presenting it, shaping it, loving it. I would hate to see this colourful world pared down to strict data presented in a uniform format. It would give you useless, pre-digested data, but it would miss the flavor that makes it all worthwile. There is no reason to make an encyclopaedia of hundreds of useless data about a country. The erep wiki exist to present not the data (that is on erep) but the view of it by the users. --Quicksilver 21:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Quit the rousing speech crap; it's just about making a base template for country pages, not killing society and stealing their babies :/ - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 09:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it a proper argument to call others 'crap'? And no, it was not just making a template, because we have a country page template. It was standardzation ("that information can only be added in those fields "). --Quicksilver 10:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
0 --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 13:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Region Maps

With the new battle template there is a need for maps of all regions. Right now there are maps for only a few countries and all of them are in a different design ( [1] ) and it doesn't look very good when they are put together in the same page. I am thinking of making maps for all of the regions in the same design, but I can't decide on a design. I like how these three look - Region-Black Sea Coast of Turkey.png and Region-Jharkhand.png. Any suggestions? Icon-Bulgaria.png V3n0M93 | Talk 13:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)

If you check my page that I'm updating here, Third Indonesia-Australia War, I'm trying to use the basic map template from Wikipedia, then I get rid of the extra region borders and then colour them in with these colours. It seems to work well because I also did this map, File:Country map-Belgium.png -- Icon-Canada.png Rowan Quigley 17:36, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
We just had this discussion over on Standardising_war_pages, guess we should include it here too. whoops. Anyway, I'm not in favor of every country looking the same, but I am in favor of every particular country having its region maps looking uniform. I have been working on USA, see eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar#Cool_Changes similar to Virginia, Maryland, Illinois, I'm slowly getting to the rest, but there is 50 of em, so please be patient. Was going to try to update each states page as I went, making it even a bigger project. -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   20:15, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
I agree that there should be some variety. The maps you are making for the USA aren't that different from the others I posted. The problem is that some maps look completely different from the rest (File:Region-Central_Croatia.jpg or File:Region-Norte_Chico.JPG). If you have a couple of completely different styled maps on the same page, it would look ugly. Icon-Bulgaria.png V3n0M93 | Talk 05:26, 23 April 2011 (PDT)
I agree, some of them are quite ugly. What do you suggest we do? I'm not a fan of the google map versions. I guess if there are ugly maps it would be best to just replace them, but I don't know exactly how to define a "style". My only real addition to the discussion would be that whatever style is use for a country should be applied to all of its original regions. -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   06:28, 23 April 2011 (PDT)
Regarding the google map versions..., well, I did that because I don't like simple ones, but I agree that I could had done it better, starting with .png and maybe doing better the borders and such..., any ideas on that?, I don't know, maybe just letting it 'googleized' in the region itself, and border regions just plain?
--Icon-Chile.png Purohueso (talk if you want) 19:22, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
Not saying your work isn't appreciated ;-) -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   01:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I think Martin23230 could help us as I've seen he was working on maps some time ago. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 08:44, 25 April 2011 (PDT)

Gosh, the Mart-signal. I must of been summoned...

Anyway, yes I have been thinking about maps, and yes I have a few ideas. I've been playing around with eRepublik maps since before I joined this site, and that was over two years ago! Gosh I sound old. If you want a map of every eRepublik region, it will take some time, but I will look into it. At the moment I'm favouring doing large, continental maps then "zooming in" on each country/region to make each individual map. Possibly similar to [2], although I won't add the rivers. Let it be said now I favour standardisation over complete differences, but I think some originality in colours etc would be possible per country. I would also note this will use real-life divisions, not the eRepublik map ones which are rubbish in certain places (Germany and Canada especially). I'll look into what I have and make a few suggestions.--Martin23230 08:14, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

A standard Wikipedia map would be fine, something like this [3], its blank, its clean and it has all the regions, if there is countries with less regions then Real life, we can just take the borders off and realign them. Simple! -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 18:41, 26 April 2011 (PDT)
I was going to do more maps for the USA as I was updating the regions that are in-play during the USA-Spain War and Mexico-USA War, as well the remaining US regions (and perhaps Mexico as a green color), but if you guys think a different style is in the works, I'd rather hold off until a particular style or specifics are chosen. LMK. Examples on the war pages, they were originated from wikipedia. -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   01:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I actually really like the ones done for Australia, Canada etc - they're easy to interpret at different sizes, and they look good :) Overall, we definitely need to work towards having a unified look for maps though :) In the end, we could potentially just take screenies of the erep regions for now, to overwrite the random ones? Dunno... - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 01:18, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I'm happy to do a few Wikipedia maps. I'll probably start with the smaller countries and move up. -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 14:31, 5 May 2011 (PDT)

Keyboard shortcuts

Implemented shortcuts
Section / action Keyboard shortcut
Storage Shift + S
My Land Shift + L
Military Campaigns Shift + C
Top News (your country) Shift + T
New message Shift + N
World Map Shift + W
Military Unit Shift + M
Alerts Shift + A
Proposed shortcuts
Section / action Keyboard shortcut
Wiki ???
Forum ???
Newspaper ???

Let me know what do you think... --Belea2008 10:35, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Shift W works. Too bad the world map doesn't. Otherwise a good idea... just why are the wiki, forum, newspaper again not in it? The have no menu item, not directly visible link, and now no shortkey either...--Quicksilver 11:19, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The tech guys are investigating it. They estimate that it will be fixed in a max of 24 hours. :S (Also, I added your 3 suggestions to a separate table.) --Belea2008 12:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Here are my suggestions:
Implemented shortcuts
Section / action Keyboard shortcut
Storage Shift+S
My Land Shift+L
Military Campaigns Shift+C
Top News (your country) Shift+T
New message Shift+N
World Map Shift+M
Military Unit none
Alerts Shift+A
Proposed shortcuts
Section / action Keyboard shortcut
Wiki Shift+W
Forum Shift+F
Newspaper Shift+P

(Finally got that table to work, and I think it broke sth, but I don't know what, lol) --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 13:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Shift+U for Military Unit?--Martin23230 16:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't think Military Unit needs any shortcut, since it isn't used that much. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 11:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, Forum and Wiki are at the bottom of the page. ||||||Khebit TC| 16:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
And it is wrong that these are hidden out of sight at the bottom of the page!--Quicksilver 18:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
SHIFT + T directs you now to the Top Rated International News. --Belea2008 15:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

New alliance info

"Topic for #luna.council is The newest 'Small Country Alliance' is slowly forming, making life better for all of us. Read the Introduction to Luna Document here: | Representatives: | Nations: Austria, India, Israel, Malaysia, Philippines, South Africa, Switzerland and Uruguay :: Forum is HERE:"

Can someone please document it? --Belea2008 14:03, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Luna :) - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 15:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
What about ABC (Alliance of Baltic Countries)? --Santirub 04:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Interesting reading. Also, they started in "full force".
  • Lithuania is no longer a Natural Enemy for Latvia
  • Latvia has declared Belarus as a Natural Enemy
  • Lithuania attacked Hrodzienskaya, Belarus
Jan, can we count on you to also document this one? --Belea2008 14:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

ONE/NWO official founding/creation

Could someone please document it? --Belea2008 11:51, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

ONE --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 13:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
So is this NWO, or a new alliance? Did they change their name? The NWO membership includes other nations. Also a whole new page was made for ONE, overwriting the historical "ONE". But we already have a NWO article. If we want to change the original ONE to another name, then fine, but the NWO article and the new ONE article should be merged. That is, if the two alliances are one in the same. Wish these new alliances would choose a unique name. It is gonna play havoc with the links. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   14:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
The old ONE haven't been overwritten, see Order of Nations of eRepublik. And infact NWO is ONE. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 14:58, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
All links fixed:
Also, thanks to sampo.
--Belea2008 15:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Alright, so NWO is ONE, but we still have two separate articles for the same thing. Don't need two, it will confuse editing. I redirected NWO and merged into ONE. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   04:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
It does look pretty stupid right now with the merge.--Quicksilver 06:32, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
LOL! It was the exact same information. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   08:25, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
No, its name was ONE in one page and NWO on the other. Now, a reader does not know what the heck is ONE and why it is called NWO sometimes.--Quicksilver 08:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I fixed it to read ONE, but as for readers looking for NWO and getting ONE ... blame the alliance. And yes, even under the ONE article it was being called NWO, whoever started that article was still calling it NWO for some reason. After the redirect there was little changed between the two articles. Anyway, tried to fix it up. Maybe you can help. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   08:54, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Citizen 6, whoever strated the article should think a bit further and all the blame is on alliance.--Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 00:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

History of Croatia

Could someone please document this? --Belea2008 15:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

History of Hungary

Could someone please document it? --Belea2008 15:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

It is already documented: --Quicksilver 07:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
All right. Thanks! I'll add my further comments in the Talk:History_of_Hungary page. --Belea2008 08:15, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Amendment to the Wiki Style Guide - eSouth Africa OR South Africa


I would like to propose the introduction of the following amendment to the Style Guide: usage of "e" in country names is disallowed (e.g. only South Africa to be used; and NOT eSouth Africa). I'm proposing this for consistency. Of course, the naming policy still stands; if an entity contains "eSouth Africa" in it; then it should be left as such. Thoughts? --Belea2008 12:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 12:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
0 I think most readers can figure it out. Either way works for me, but it might be a bit of work bringing every article in-line. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   12:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I thought it was voted/added like 2 years ago... --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Found it. eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/August2008#Country.2FeCountry --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
All right. It was approved apparently. Can someone please modify the Wiki Style Guide to include it? --Belea2008 14:10, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Nevermind (thanks, sampo!): - I wonder why there are still contributors which use eCountry... :S --Belea2008 14:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Alliance pages: Should we use full names or abbreviations

  • Voting abbreviations: +1 (votes: 6)
  • Voting full names (with redirect to full name): -1 (votes: 7)
  • Undecided: 0 (votes: 0)

For a long time we have been using the abbreviations as the names of wiki pages. However last weekend alliance pages were moved under their full names. The question is, should we name the pages of alliances using their full names or possible abbreviation names? --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 12:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

  • And have for example 'Atlantic Treaty of Latin, American, and Nordic Territories for International Security' as page name instead of Atlantis? No way. --Quicksilver 12:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • +1 I vote in favor of abbreviations, and I think pages were moved without anyone's consent. And BTW. I was about to ask the same thing. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:25, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 Both, with redirect to full name. Abbreviations should go to a disambig page, if applicable. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   12:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I am a strong believer of the idea that usage is more important that outside-imposed rules. Most alliances' names were used as abbreviations, and so that is what/where their pages should be. --Quicksilver 13:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • +1 Totally forgot. I support abbreviations too. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 13:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 I dislike abbreviations in general. Also, right now we have two ONE-s, the old one and the new one. They are better differentiated if we use full name in case of both and the ONE page to be a disambig. --Belea2008 14:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 As it won't be difficult to arrive to the pages as far as there are Redirects. ||||||Khebit TC| 15:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 "Both, with redirect to full name" - Yes :3 - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 06:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • +1 abbreviations for me, primarily for ease of use and reference - Zamrg 13:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • +1 Abbreviations is better, the complete name is explained into the article, and if the search is the problem, forget it, it's to easy find out the Alliances page. --Santirub 16:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Surely redirecting the abbreviation to the full name would work? - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 17:20, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 Both, with redirect to full name.----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 20:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 As now some alliances have the same abbreviations we should use the full name for alliances page. And as players mostly use abbreviations of them, we should keep abbreviations page for redirect. For alliances with the same abbreviation, instead of redirection, we should have a disambiguation page. ~~ Azaret Icon-Paraguay.png déjame un mensaje (: 20:04, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
  • -1 The pages hould be with the full name, However inside articles it is better to use the abbreviations with a redirect ot the full name Icon-Bulgaria.png V3n0M93 | Talk 20:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Is there no limit to words in the name? There should be. And many aliances would go over that limit. IMHO. --Quicksilver 20:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
The limit of page name is about 255 bytes, we're not about reach the limit yet, even ATLANTIS do 85. ~~ Azaret Icon-Paraguay.png déjame un mensaje (: 23:02, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
  • +1 I think abbreviations are a lot easier to remember and your probably going to forever try and type something in a get no where. This is fine the way it is, leave it that way. Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 21:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that's why we could redirect the abbreviations TO the full name alliances >.> - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 22:42, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat related note: Can someone make some {{FlagLink}}s and {{FlagBall}}s for the alliances. They might be useful. Flag-EDEN.jpg EDEN already has both Icon-EDEN.png , though as you can see, needs to be fixed to include EDEN text. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   12:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
{{FlagBall|EDEN}} / {{FlagLink|EDEN}}? --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 16:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


  • Voted for this proposal (we use abbreviations): 6
  • Voted against this proposal (we use full names with redirect to full name): 7

So from this moment forward, we shall name alliance pages with their full name and create abbreviation redirect to them. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 20:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

History of Finland

--Belea2008 13:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

What about these? - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 22:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Just giving all a heads up that I created them in case someone wishes to improve them at one point in time.--Belea2008 18:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

A random article - Canada

Is it notable enough to be documented? --Belea2008 07:20, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

xD Sure, I guess - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 06:58, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Global results of presidential elections

Could someone please document these articles:

It is exactly the kind of analysis I wanted to make in this page: (except I wanted to use no. of citizens based on citizenship and eligible voters instead of all citizens). Thanks in advance for the help! --Belea2008 11:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Country pages: Updating the taxes

I had no better things to do so I collected info about taxes and created table with {{Taxes}} for each country (I didn't break the eRep ToS to get these BTW :D). I was thinking about updating every country page with new taxes but I thought it would be vise to ask for your opinion about this first. So, the question is, can I use {{Taxes}} to create the table for taxes in every country page? I remembered that some of you didn't like this template so I thought it'd be vise to ask others opinions first. What do you think?

  • +1 - Add Template:Taxes to every country page.
  • -1 - Don't add template taxes to every country page.

--Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

+1 Brilliant again, Sampo! A question though; what script language do you use, and how does it roughly work? (Also, how often will it update) - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 22:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
I better mention that tax thing isn't automatically updating. Tax rates aren't available in API so we can't make it happen that way. But for this region thing I'm only using basic JavaScript (click a link to page I want to update -- > get --> create switch code from xml --> save page). Nothing more complicated. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 23:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Great work Sampo. It would be great if there is a way that data is automatically updated through erep API. --Icon-Croatia.png Dalibor / Talk 23:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 I don't see why not. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   04:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Nice :) ||||||Khebit TC| 15:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 This looks just awesome. --Icon-Germany.png Freiheitskaempfer | Talk 17:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Implemented. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 21:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Press releases

I hope that the Erepublik staff do not delete them. In fact I want them to release it somehow so that users on the wiki can use it. Discuss. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 21:53, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Coat of Arms on Region pages

I've just noticed when the region page is updated automatically by the API, the Coat of Arms isn't changed because of the naming policy and no script going with it. I think we should remove Coat of Arms from Region pages, the country and flag name automatically change, no point having to go around changing the Coat of Arms manually. Icon-Iceland.pngIcon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 05:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I just kinda thought they didn't need changing. Even if the region is conquered, the CoA would just stay the same. Kind of a way to indicate it is an occupied territory. Thats how I was thinking about it anyway. Doesn't bother me either way, really. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   05:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
If you can provide a list of regions original owners, we can make the Coat change to original owner flag when region changes ownership - if not, show the Coat specified at the page. The problem is that there's no list from which you can see the original owners of regions. So getting the list done would require A LOT of research. But I bet Belea can provide us a list with original owners of all regions (I'm pretty sure they have it somewhere :D). Belea? --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 08:14, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I'd prefer the coat of arms to always stay the same tbh, regardless of the occupying country. We can just put an "original owner" row in the infobox lower down? - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 09:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
The original owner row would be an awesome idea. Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 10:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 to original owner proposal. ||||||Khebit TC| 15:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I simply can't see the reason why the coats of arms should be either removed or changed. Occupation doesn't change these. --Quicksilver 15:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
The flag of original country is put to the coat of arms field when region is conquered. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 19:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Original owners of regions

"But I bet Belea can provide us a list with original owners of all regions (I'm pretty sure they have it somewhere :D). Belea?" - does this help: --Belea2008 16:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

It would help if I only knew what shall I do with it (I'll create the switch) :D --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 19:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
LOL; next time tell me also the format of the data - so that you can use it very fast upon receiving it. CSV is all right with you? --Belea2008 19:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
The format isn't a problem. The only problem is that there's 439 regions in your list but there's 552 regions in the New World. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 19:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
It looks like SQL table dump, from some old backup I think. And BTW. it's pretty lame that name of country is in table along with country id. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 10:46, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you're right. It is an SQL table dump. But from several tables, not one. --Belea2008 11:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Ah, INNER/LEFT/RIGHT/FULL JOIN. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Wait? The Coat of Arms is being replaced by original ownership flag? I don't think that was agreed to. In fact, previous comments indicate consensus otherwise. You're jumping the gun. Besides, it looks kinda weird. I'd recommend a separate field for original ownership, perhaps part of the content lower down under Society or in its own section. Also, in the USA many identify with our state flags, they are a big part of each states identity, so it may be the same for Coat of Arms, which we don't have. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   20:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
The "when region changes ownership --> Change Coat to original owner flag" policy has been around longer than me (and I've been here for almost 2 years). So we're not jumping a gun here. If you want this to be changed, start a new discussion about it. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 18:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, that's kind of weird seeing as how when this discussion opened up it wasn't in play. I see no need to open another discussion seeing as how this one would suffice. Please direct me to the policy guideline you mention. Either way, being a currently owned and original region was showing two of the same flags side-by-side (at least it was, but has since been changed back), and it looked very odd. I still recommend original ownership be in a separate row inside the template. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   21:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Help:Style_Guide#..._a_Region_is_conquered.3F. But I agree to your proposal to add original owner row as soon as Belea gives us a FULL list of regions and their original owners. When the original owner is added, you don't need to change the Coat anymore. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 04:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Abbreviation Redirect policy

I'd like to review the policy of disallowing abbreviation articles to be made to redirect to full-page names. I'm not sure what the problem is with them? The problem that "multiple entities may have the same abbreviation" can be quickly be sorted with a disambiguation page.

  • +1 - Allow abbreviations (& disambiguations in them for multiple entities using the same abrv.)
  • -1 - No, dont allow abbreviation redirects at all.

- John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 19:09, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

+1 You have a fear of abbreviations I guess. There is no reason to diasallow them IMHO. --Quicksilver 06:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
-1 I dislike abbreviations because:
All in all, if consensus is reached and usage of abbreviations is encouraged, I suggest someone keeps an eye on this list to avoid senseless and over usage of redirects:
--Belea2008 08:20, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 11:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Clarify - are we talking about all abbreviations? Alliances, parties, game terms, etc.? There have been many times I am editing and want to direct to political parties using what they are most often called in media and forums. arbitrary example: USWP instead of United States Workers Party, because ... 1. It is called that most often ~90% of the time (at least in the US, though obviously not everywhere) and readers who may want to look that party up would likely just type USWP in the search bar ... and 2. It is easier, and having to type out the formal name is a pain. Particularly when the reference might not be the focus of the edit, just side or related information. Note: I hate having to type Mutual Protection Pact instead of just using MPP (it is a very common term in the game and linking tells newbs what you mean to say without getting bogged down in minutia). Same goes for RW vs. Resistance war. These are basic game terms and endlessly having to spell it out for potential newbs is tiresome. But if someone knows anything about bots, I'm sure converting MPP to Mutual Protection Pact wouldn't be much of an issue. I don't see a problem with disambigs, after all that is what they are for, but I don't think everything should be abbreviated either, just things which are most often referred to in that way (but this is the problem, because it is subjective). It's not cut and dry for me. I feel some should be linked, others to disambiged, and others spelled out. If this is for every type of abbreviation I'd have to say -1, but for some abbreviation types, I'd say +1 to linking them. Please specify which instances you are talking about. One other thing to consider, as a contributor, I would never spell out Military Decorations, Medals and Insignia of the New Zealand Defence Force (which, btw, is spelled incorrectly in some versions of English). I like to play on the wiki, but frankly, if I was writing on that topic and was required to type that out every time I want to link it in, I wouldn't hang around here long. I do understand the concern about allowing it, because everyone who starts a group uses abbreviations and we could end up with long lists. Still though, I don't mind disambigs either. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   12:35, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

What I mean is, allow us to create abbreviation pages that redirect to full-named articles, and disambiguations where multiple entities use the same abbreviation. It could be for parties, militaries, game features etc. - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 13:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Funnily enough, it'd also encompass alliance abbreviations redirecting to the full-name articles :3 - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 13:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Alright I'll go yes for abbreviations, though I think we might end up in the future revising parts of this policy. I can foresee some potential misuse/overuse, but generally don't have a problem with disambigs. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   16:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Policy updated - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 16:10, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Opinions on a little edit argument

I'd be grateful if you could all provide your opinions here Talk:United Kingdom Worker's Party about some edits. - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 21:36, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. --Belea2008 08:24, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Update Medal template

I would be grateful if someone can update THIS template. Only Campaign hero medal is missing. Thanks in advance ----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 06:50, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

duly noted ~~ Azaret Icon-Paraguay.png déjame un mensaje (: 19:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool Changes

So word is there are going to be some game changes effecting resources, d systems, hospitals, etc. How is this going to impact the region pages, and how should the wiki address them? Just asking before I delve into a map project for the many US regions and was thinking of two birds, one stone. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   19:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Region pages won't be needing any updating due to upcoming changes. They're not removing anything this time - only adding new things (which don't affect region pages at all). So feel free to finish your project without worrying about upcoming changes. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 04:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
"Hold your horses".... I'll be posting more info a bit later. --Belea2008 07:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok, holding horses ... amongst other things. :-p --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   16:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
More information - related specifically to what you asked:
  • no current plans to make improvements regarding what resources are assigned to each region;
  • defense systems - will be removed from the game;
  • hospitals - will be removed from the game;
  • some countries no. of regions will be reduced at one point in time (see the above link) - and with this the world map (again, keep in mind that the Game Design team will try not to touch the current resources system - example: if a country has 8/9/10/etc. regions with a resource, some of these regions will be removed/merged)
I hope the above information helps.
--Belea2008 14:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Also, try to add historical importance (in the New World context) to them. A few examples:
Basically, I consider that region pages are "cold" - yes, they provide information - but cold information; a little bit of context would be good.
--Belea2008 09:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Anyone have any suggestions on examples of a good ("Hot") region page, preferably up-to-date with forthcoming changes and a good layout? Many still have Mayor data, I have no idea what to do with that, other than leave it in for historical purposes - though I kinda just want to delete it altogether. Unfortunately regions don't seem to have much autonomy under the current game rules, so they are a bit blah (at least the ones I'm lurking through). I'd kinda like to see that change, but the game seems to be moving in the other direction nowadays. :-( --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   10:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Knowing the distance between two regions

Useful: --Belea2008 10:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

There is already this here --Icon-Germany.png Freiheitskaempfer | Talk 11:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, if the eRepublik map is ever re-done, a map mode showing what travel zone each region was in would be very useful. Could you suggest it Belea? Along with the history of course.--Martin23230 11:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Also push for the map history to be fixed :( - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 13:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Have this map ever worked? --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 15:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Seconding the Map History function. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   16:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Yep, when the map was first created (August 2009) until the first new countries after that (October 2010) there was a full history of who controlled what. I'm just hoping they saved that information.--Martin23230 17:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Region map filenames

Can we possibly standardise these filenames, into the format "File:Region-{{{Full Region Name}}}.png"? This would be useful for templates like Third_Spain-France_War#Battles and future ones, and just for ease of file recognition. I'd do it myself, but I dont have the power to move files to new names >.> :P - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 10:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

If someone could move them, I'm making a list of the files and what they should be renamed to here - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 11:25, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Moved. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 11:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Original owner row to {{Region}}

  • +1 - We add original owner row to the region template. The row shows up only if region isn't onwed by orginal owner. Coat won't be changed when region is conquered.
  • -1 - We keep the current system. If region changes ownership, new owner flag will be put to Coat field.

Start voting! --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 04:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

+1 --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 04:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
That 'flag into coat's place has not an iota of logic in it.--Quicksilver 06:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 and +1 to new row - Zamrg 06:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 to new row and +1 on won't changing coat. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 08:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 to new row and +1 on won't change coat. Side note: USA does not use, or even have, Coat of Arms. We use State Seals, however, in this case State Flags would be more appropriate. Seals are used for entirely different reasons. But that is another discussion I guess. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   10:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 13:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 :P - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 22:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 I wanted this for long time ;_; --Santirub 22:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems that we have a winner here! I'll add the original owner row to the template when Belea offers me a full list of regions and their original owners (not a list which lacks over 100 regions) --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 04:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

One last thing... Would it be good to make the "last updated" field visable in the template so readers can see if the article is out of date? --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   06:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Can we make a script or code to automatically update when someone changes the page? It would help a lot. Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander Talk to me! 12:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes we can: Apr 11, 2015 (Last edit on this page) --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 20:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Has this been done, I've seen no changes :3 -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 04:35, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

Media module discussion

Strike out lines were already implemented.

Here's the suggestions we received so far:

  • buttons always go to top rated in the category, even when I'm reading latest news (the icons for the categories should also work as filters);
  • add more precise time filtering - latest, last hour, last 6 hours, last 12 hours, etc.
  • people miss the green "thingy" that leads directly to the subscribed news
  • add a button for "all categories"
  • add "spam" as a category, which cant be used by authors, but moderators can move categories there
  • could you modify the new changes so we can sort our subs (instead of it returning to top rated/category chosen)
  • add "government articles" to the "Battle orders" category
  • make one more - "spam" or call it "not worth reading: :) > and allow people to vote such things > when art gets more then 10 spam votes - then it is auto moved to spam catalog and is auto deleted after week or something like that
  • the default should be the "latest", not the "top rated" (in every category)
  • there should be top rated news of all categories directly at homepage
  • add a notification when a new article (subscriptions) is published
  • add news search
  • an Article of The Day option, similar to the Campaign of the Day, that way the president can put an important article at the front page of all citizens
  • allow the option to see all categories, like the old module
  • allow the option to see the top 20 international, like the old module

--Belea2008 15:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC) --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 15:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
sampo got it pretty much, my additions were: add a governmental section, direct top-international button (both on the homepage please). --Icon-Germany.png Freiheitskaempfer | Talk 15:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
This may, or may not, be a workable suggestion (provided this is an appropriate place to bring it up) ... but how about a language filter. Currently the US news is dominated by Turkish language news. Basically this has made the top lists all but unusable and has severally effected many USA players usage of the entire media module. At the very least is has made it much more work to find readable news, particularly for two-clickers, and essentially makes the purpose of the top list more or less void for non-Turkish readers. Also - obviously - makes wiki-updating more work on my end. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   15:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
1) What?
2) Not a bad idea.
3) Agreed. Bring back the subscription icon beneath alerts.
4) Yes.
5) No. Spam category? Spam is deleted.
6) Uhm, I prefer 3).
7) Don't really care. But do not add 55 categories so that you have to click through a maze to find something.
8) No. Spam should be deleted. Nor worth reading - abuse. Spam deletion is administration job. Not peoples job, what if people hate someone and vote against him/her all the time?
9) Yes.
10) Hm. If you can fit it, yes.
11) See 3)
12) Good idea.
My own personal ideas:
  1. Make the categories "drop down" instead of opening a new page.
  2. Do not make this thing complicated. It is already becoming complicated. It should not be complicated. Do not make this a maze. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 16:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
btw whats the time after news disappear from the list? we got a 5 days old article being on top - pretty long time, isnt it? --Icon-Germany.png Freiheitskaempfer | Talk 17:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Make it possible to publish articles in another country and make newspaper link in the menu bar! --Quicksilver 16:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

+1There should still be a joint "top rated" list, directly viewable like it was before
+1Article search
+1President message
+1 to dropdowns instead of newpages.
-1 Spam thing is retarded, lol :P
- John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 10:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
-1 This is so n00bish ^^ i hate it ----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 11:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
-1 Spam should be deleted especialy know when we have articles with one word in it, etc.--Irony Queen 23:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
-1 You're killing media module! I can't find my own article I wrote hour ago...
+1 There should be latest news and top news from all categories on front page!
+1 Bring back news RSS (latest and top rated by country and total) so we can use it in our applications!
--Icon-Croatia.png Dalibor / Talk 16:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Goverment Section could be nice. I implore that admins to add more pages for our subscriptions, only 2 pages is an horrible amount D:. --Santirub 16:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of empty pages

Today i nominated several pages for deletion, here are some of them:

I think we should make an category for this kind of pages, or delete them. One sentence on wikipage is nonsence, and it's just taking free space on wiki.

So, I wanna hear your voices. Should we delete them, or make category for this kind of pages, something like
Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 13:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
They're not important enough, and one sentence pages are only boosting number of pages on Wiki, so, +1 on deleting them.--Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 13:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
You should take these votings to the uber-editor forum if only uber-editors opinion counts. --Quicksilver 15:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 delete them---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 00:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Is there a "Deletion Request" template on this wiki? Just curious. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   13:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Here it is :) ----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 13:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Delete them, they are all dead and it really doesn't matter if we delete them, no one will notice. -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 04:34, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

ESerbia Portal

Hello to everyone, I've started to updating the articles in Serbian (very little had been done lately) and I would like to create a Portal:Serbia and try to envolve other players to join the project and make a fantastic job with those old outdated articles. So, I would like to ask the community and staff for a little help or directions. Cheers!--Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 23:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

take a look at the other portals, could take some ideas form them ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 00:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Example of portal: Dioism
If you need anything, you can send me PM, contact me on talk page or even IRC :) ----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 13:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Here's a better example, the one that I created: Israel ---Emorfion Icon-Israel.pngLSCE.png MY TALK PAGE/MY WIKI PAGE
Well I managed to finish it, of course I plan to add some more information, but it looks like this right now Serbia--Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 14:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
The best example of a portal there could be, Tim Veltkamp o/ Anyway, so far - so good, Irony Queen, although if Q J Lincoln was still around she'd disapprove this, as portals require maintenance, and the editors don't last long, but if you are an enthusiast, then have fun finishing it up/ maintaining it :) --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 02:39, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
Well I'm not planning leaving neither the wiki, neither the game, so I hope that I will manage the task of maintenance.--Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 01:22, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

Unifying the Country map naming

We've been renaming region maps in the last days and I thought that should we do the same on country maps. I've looked every country page and some names of these maps are quite funny. So I suggest we rename those with naming convention: Map-name of the country.jpg/.png/.gif and categorize those as Country maps. What do you think? Share your thoughts. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 09:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

+1 --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 09:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Icon-Bulgaria.png V3n0M93 | Talk 09:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Don't bother to vote, V3n0M93, only uber-editors's and administrators' votes count.--Quicksilver 10:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Could you please stop commenting if you don't have any constructive things to say. Everyone can take part in voting - if you don't want to do it, then don't. It's up to you. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 12:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, I was told quite clearly that it is not so. --Quicksilver 13:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Omg, you're still whining and crying about this standardization? --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 14:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 ||||||Khebit TC| 10:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 While I agree that a uniformed system needs to be in place, I wonder why we need the "Map-" prefix? Why not just use the country name? I also wonder if they all shouldn't just be .png format. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   10:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, changing them all to PNG's require using external software to save them again as png and then to be uploaded back to wiki. And it doesn't really matter: the old syntax will still be used in country template. And why "Map-" prefix: because then we can use Special:MassEditRegex to add the categories or in the future add some content to the file pages if needed (like some more categories). And they're also easier to find then. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 12:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I would prefer Country_Map-{{{country name}}}.png/jpg/gif, as we have maps that are neither Country nor Region that could use Map-... :) - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 13:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok, if the name format is for tech reasons then it makes sense. Up to you guys. --Icon-USA.png Citizen 6  Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   05:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
+1-I agree with sampo's original idea. --Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 14:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Awesome idea...I'm totally for it----Hurkancs Icon-Croatia.png Say something to me :) 17:13, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
+1 Great idea! I actually thought that it's the system, and how you should upload a map, but now that I see that it's not like that, I totally agree! --- Emorfion Icon-Israel.pngLSCE.png MY TALK PAGE/MY WIKI PAGE08:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems that we have strong agree upon this idea. After thinking about what Jan said, I will use Country_map-Country.jpg/.png/.gif for better organization. You have few days to say no to this before I start moving files. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 10:46, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Also take out .gif's, they are awful to use and the quality of the images are usually horrible. Just stick with .jpg's and .png's for now. -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 04:33, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

Why on Earth was the Hungary map renamed as 'Country map-Romania.jpg'??? --Quicksilver 23:10, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

<sarcasm>Because we don't like you and we are doing it to annoy you.</sarcasm> What do you think? -- Icon-Austria.png Mikhail Alexander 02:43, 27 April 2011 (PDT)

I apologise for asking. --Quicksilver 03:51, 27 April 2011 (PDT)

Redraw upgraded factories for food and weapon

Not sure where i should put this, but here is new the pictures for food/weapon companies + a new one for storage.




--Lonestar  Wallpapers-room com Swedish Flag by xxoblivionxx 1920x1200.jpg Talk

New raw company images








--"Gucio16 " 19:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.6.4

Wiki software updated. Also, new skin available (Vector - the one used by Wikipedia) - in order to use it (if logged in) select it here:

  • Why not MediaWiki 2?

Because that version is not "stable" yet. --Belea2008 01:30, 19 April 2011 (PDT)

Nice.Thank You for the new skin.--Icon-Serbia.png Irony Queen Talk to me :) 01:48, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
I like new skin, but so many bugs... hope it will be fixed soon... there should be notice or something...--Icon-Croatia.png Dalibor / Talk 05:05, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Cool, Wiki got screwed up, images got screwed up, LocalSettings.php got screwed up. OOPS, SMELLS LIKE A FAIL ! And btw. updated site notice. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 05:06, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Hmmmmm, I was for ask an update as we were on a pretty old version, I take a look of the version page and I see "1.17wmf1", according to MediaWiki the stable release is 1.16, 1.17 is under development, so what about "Why not MediaWiki 2? - Because that version is not "stable" yet." (by the way I don't even know what is MediaWiki "2") and if you want an unstable version you can install directly the 1.18 :) ~~ Azaret Icon-Paraguay.png déjame un mensaje (: 07:33, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Finally, lol! - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 10:00, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Liking the new skin! -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   05:37, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Military unit field on the Citizen template

Ever since the military unit bar has been added to the citizen thing on the profile page, I think its necessary to have it here on the wiki as well. People are part of military units so its good if they can show it. -- Icon-Canada.png Rowan Quigley 01:32, 19 April 2011 (PDT)

I think we already have it... In the Military Section of the citizen template, there is a place to write the Army, the Squadron (Military Unit) and the position. I think we only need to change it from Squadron to Military unit. ---Emorfion Icon-Israel.pngLSCE.png MY TALK PAGE/MY WIKI PAGE03:22, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Squadron millitary unit, what's in a name? --Icon-Netherlands.png Daniel Parker 04:21, 19 April 2011 (PDT)

Wiki Mentor Program

If anyone needs/offers help, then please sign up for the Wiki Mentor Program!
I checked the activity of the mentors, seems that we're only 2 right now, so if anyone feels experienced enough -> check this out! --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 02:56, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Cool idea. I'm totally in, but I ain't exactly an old-timer, so I hope thats cool. I do have tons of wiki experience beyond this one though, so maybe that qualifies me? -- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   04:28, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
Well, your citizen and user pages look tidy, so feel free to add yourself to the Mentor List. --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 05:07, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
I'm new here, but it seems I'm the only one speaking Spanish :/ so count me in :) ||||||Khebit TC| 09:21, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Added myself to the list :) - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 10:03, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

Also, I think Belea should add a link to the projects in his messages to the new users, to let them know how they can receive help. ||||||Khebit TC| 04:57, 21 April 2011 (PDT)
@Khebit I proposed that earlier and I think I received something like "Discuss it with the other sysops and then we'll talk" as an answer. But let's hope he checks here :) --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 05:04, 21 April 2011 (PDT)
Belea here. :D I read the majority of the conversation in the Wiki. :P In this case, any SysOp can edit "my messages to new users" by editing this page: --Belea2008 14:27, 21 April 2011 (PDT)
Dimow here => check it out--DanielDimow||Speak to me. 14:49, 25 April 2011 (PDT)
Made you a quick logo, free to use if you want.-- Flag-USA.jpg Citizen 6 Ribbon addition - Silver Award Star.png Talk   00:59, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
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Wiki of Ireland potentially being abused

I don't want to make a huge deal of this, but Ireland is currently being PTOed, and I believe there are early signs that the wiki of Ireland is under attack. I'm not seeking any action at this point, but I would like to draw everyone's attention to this as early as possible.

Please have a look at the discussion and the changes which have been made to Ireland's wiki recently. (I realize I could have handled this better innititally, but since there is no doubt in my mind that this is a PTO attack, it is very difficult for me).

I would like to point a few things out for your consideration. The major edits which are in question belong to Goku Jones. Within the private Dail of Ireland he has been described by our own Minister of Immigration as a known Brit. Nothing against the UK, but the PTO we are facing comes from The Bremen Clubhouse, a known British organization. This PTO is very open about its intentions and members, and I would describe it's members as trolls as well as PTOers.

I will admit that some of the changes made could be called updates (population, and he added a clip of the national anthem of Ireland), but it is my observation that a lot of writing that I wrote and removed myself in the past to improve the page are just being inserted and taken out randomly. He also changed the headers to a UK style, which I would argue most in Ireland would deem unnecessary.

Although the changes to our wiki appear quite innocent, I do not believe they are improvements. I would also like to point out that the page has been edited to look more like the page for the UK and for the Bremen Clubhouse. I cannot be totally unbiased as I am the major contributor to the Irish wiki page, but I truly think it was much much better before the changes Goku Jones made. Goku also removed a list of known PTOers (which included him) from our wiki. Goku was added to this list because he was allowed citizenship via Tomazim accepting his request after he successfully PTOd his way into congress. Goku is one of three such illegal immigrants, who did not go through the established methods of gaining citizenship, where TD's are told by Dail who to allow, not randomly allowed enfranchisement without investigation. Tomazim can be found on the wiki for The Bremen Clubhouse, and if you read his articles on eRep, his clear hatred for everything Irish is apparent.

I believe that Goku's actions touch on vandalism, and could be classified as "sneaky vandalism". I know I have a weak case as far as wiki policy, but I'm desperate to preserve the future integrity of this small section of the wiki.

I ask for no action as of now, only to make you all aware. --Ian E Coleman

I've left my response on the talk page. Frankly, I dislike your willingness to bring in-game suspicions to the wiki editor community. I think you forget this is meant to be a neutral and factual wiki, and the edits made by Goku have been nothing else. What you are describing in this discussion is a selection of in-game examples, none of which illustrate why the edits were "abusing" the page as "vandalism", whatsoever. - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 06:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
As I said, I know I don't have much of an argument as far as the wiki goes. But because of examples from the game, which this wiki happens to be for, I have reason to seriously doubt the good intentions of Goku. Since I see his edits as less than improvements to the page, I'm saying that I'd like other editors to be aware of this and watch the page. I think a case can be made for "sneaky vandalism". ----Ian E Coleman 22:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
And I think you just can't get your head around the fact that anyone can edit any article, and your judgement is too clouded by things quite unrelated. - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 22:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure that was a very constructive thing to say. Seems like you already said something like that before. --Ian E Coleman 23:31, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
This entire discussion section is hardly constructive, in that you're "warning" people about vandalism which is not. Lol... - John F Baker Icon-UK.png Talk/Royal Navy 23:56, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Recently Goku's vandalization has extended to a political party of Ireland's wiki page - Eire Aonair. --Ian E Coleman 22:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
This is a tricky one as we are both personally involved in the events described by the page. Could another editor drop by to review the current page and my edit which has been reverted twice now? My edit updated many parts of the page and has been taken down because apparently I didn't win the PP election (which only impacts one part of the edit) even though you can clearly see the result in game now. Anyway it's going to be hard for us both to be neutral here :) --Goku Jones 23:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I bumped this to the bottom as nobody seems to be seeing this further up. There is currently an edit war on the Eire Aonair (see above), we need another editor to take a look. Thank you!--Goku Jones 13:50, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

<right> tag

Because there are now two semitic languages in the wiki (Hebrew and Arabic), they are both written from right to left, unlike English that is written from left to right.

I ask you to add a tag of <right></right> so we could peacefully understand what is written in Hebrew and Arabic.

Persian (the language of Iran) and Urdu (the language of Pakistan) are also written from right to left. So there are 4 languages that need this tag.

Please add this tag as quickly as possible --Emorfion Icon-Israel.pngLSCE.png MY TALK PAGE/MY WIKI PAGE07:41, 22 April 2011 (PDT)

I guess that this would work :)
|I guess that this would work :)

~~ Azaret Icon-Paraguay.png déjame un mensaje (: 12:40, 22 April 2011 (PDT)

I tried it, it doesn't work well.... Can you please install that tag? It would be easier... Icon-Egypt.png Archangel Uriel Talk/Citizen 03:20, 23 April 2011 (PDT)
I think I'll delete Urdu, there are only 2 articles written and it was added as a private action of AgentChieftain... --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 04:30, 23 April 2011 (PDT)
So could you add a tag for that? ---Emorfion Icon-Israel.pngLSCE.png MY TALK PAGE/MY WIKI PAGE 01:08, 24 April 2011 (PDT)
Grzechooo, speak to the Urdu community first, they might be interested in translating some more articles. Most Pakistanis don't know there is a Urdu section on the wiki, we might be able to get some more editors out of Pakistan, just speak to them in #ePakistan on Rizon, they might be interested in continuing the Urdu section on the wiki. -- Icon-Austria.png Rowan Quigley 20:46, 25 April 2011 (PDT)
Are there any Pakistanis playing this game? And BTW. Azaret, this isn't what he wanted I think.--Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 04:33, 26 April 2011 (PDT)
I think this IS what they wanted, text direction from right to left. It's as easy as putting <div style="direction:rtl;"> in the page source. I'm not sure if this is what they exactly wanted, but the best thing I could think of.
Thank you! That's exactly what we wanted! Archangel Uriel Icon-Egypt.png talk with me/my wiki page06:51, 26 April 2011 (PDT)

Protect page

I request the protection of the page Partido Nacional Republicano, because the User:Alain Echevers doesn't understand that the main page must be in english. I don't know another form to report articles, so it's the wrong way, my apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IVicentico (talkcontribs)

This is just the right way to do it. I've protected it. Just let me or some other sysop know if you decide to translate it into English ;) --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 01:53, 30 April 2011 (PDT)