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Something more happier... As this month I have manage to clean all of my college obligations, I finally got the time to create the reward proposal for May and this time the proposal is made on time! :D Enjoy. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 20:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with all the rewards. You guys are doing good job here. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 20:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations on getting your college stuff done, AndyCro! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 00:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Ooh. Maybe this month the rewards will actually be given to editors. I haven't got a day of extra storage even I have been in top 7 for total of 3 times before this month... --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 19:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Is that all ? :P --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:09, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Phoenix Alliance Template

Hey guiz, sorry to overflow the bar some more but I thought I'd point out that unlike the Sol Alliance, {{Sol Members}}, Phoenix doesn't have a members template. It was pointed out there was one on Indonesia's entry, but this is actually not a template and is written into the entry itself. Could someone with super powers that us mere mortals do not possess(i.e are allowed into the template namespace) copy that into an actualy template that we can then plaster all over the place? :) (Also, make the red a little lighter, mebbe it's just me but the text doesn't show up too well as is on my monitor) --Icon-UK.png || John Forseti || TALK 09:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

You can create a template in your sandbox (i.e. something like User:John_Forsetti/Sandbox), when you're done any person with template namespace access can't put it in place --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 09:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't quite understand the bit after create it in the sandbox, but I've now done that: User:John_Forseti/Sandbox --Icon-UK.png || John Forseti || TALK 18:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
{{Phoenix Members}} --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 08:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Ossim, cheers dude. --Icon-UK.png || John Forseti || TALK 14:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I dont suppose you are keen to make one for EDEN members and Brollliance members? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
That red makes me want to gouge out my eyes...--Quicksilver 16:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, that red is hideous. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
The red looks fine for me, maybe I have weird eyes/monitor settings? We could always use the colour from the PHX logo itself I suppose, which according to photoshop is #bd0808. --Icon-UK.png || John Forseti || TALK 19:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I cannot edit templates, but on Hungary's page too it looks like my eyes bleeding. I strongly urge you to change it.--Quicksilver 20:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I changed it to the Phoenix red, it is still awful. You cannot really read the header and the color is too strong. I don't know enough about the color codes to change it. But it needs to be fixed. Quicksilver and I can agree, it is MOST UNPLEASANT on our eyes. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Changed "The Phoenix Alliance" color to white, hope it looks better. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 11:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Made {{EDEN Members}} (just couldn't see Phoenix having cool template :mrgreen:) --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 10:15, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Grzechooo! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, {{Entente Members}} (I was bored :mrgreen:) --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 10:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
There is {{Brolliance Members}} too (now everyone is happy). --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 11:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
\o/ --Quicksilver 12:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


When I put my info out, it turns blank... Seren Valletta 20:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you be more vague? - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 04:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Lol. Good question :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 04:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I think this was because Saretta had her information on the right hand side of the "|" ie "Picture= | 600px-Flag_of_Most_Serene_Republic_of_Venice.png‎" --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


Please add your input on this page.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 22:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I not please, I beg You. :] --Icon-Poland.png Thomas Gorzkiewski|Shout at me.
Responded. It needs to be moved out of article space immediately. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 21:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Done --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, you're amazing QJ. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 05:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Geez, just ask her out on an eDate already :P --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 05:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Template Translation

is there a Uber Editor anywhere?^^ Because I cant create a Template: page... would like to have some german templates :)

Thank you :) --Shefe 15:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Im online. Im guessing its for the Wellness/Deutsch Template?--Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Page now made. Enjoy, Shefe! Type {{Wellness}} onto any Deutsch page to make that Wellness box appear. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


Category:Templates - Citizen Award contains multiple templates that are now placed in UK character articles. I'm wondering if our manual of style has anything to say about this. If we do not, stylistically shouldn't they be moved into some sort of a heading like "Presented Awards" or something? Having that up top just looks awkward to be quite honest. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 21:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter what the category is called, as long as there is a category that groups these similar templates together. Personally, I don't understand the usefulness or need for these templates, but whatever. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Country President Candidate Question

Okay. Here's a "curveball" question. There are 6 parties vying for Country President, each backing different people. Candidate A,B,C,D,E,F. At the end of the 2nd of each month (the last day for Presidential nominations) A,B,C,D and E are the candidates from the top 5 parties. Soon after Day change on the third, Candidate F's party has a sudden surge, and reaches the top 5. Does this change who runs for that month? Or is it locked in place as soon as it becomes the 3rd day of the month in eRepublik? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 05:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that the E candidate is out of elections as soon as F's party is in Top 5. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 11:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I thought so too, but I wasnt sure. I thought it was better to get everyone to back the one candidate in Australia instead, just to be on the safe side :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 11:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone know whats going on with the battles atm?

A lot of battles that should have closed havent. For instance, Balochistan has been screen-shot being 60k underground at the time the timer reached 60,000 underground. It now says its 40k above ground, and the timer is still 00:00. Whats worse, API time says there is 35 hours left from NOW :\ --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing new going on. There have been problems with automatic battle closing for months (like WA). They're not going to fix it before new module arrives. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 11:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, but 3 days for a 24 hours battle? Thats a bit extreme :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Is Sampo a bot?

Look at Recent Changes. I must take a screenshot of this. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 17:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a bot. I'm a machine :P. Nah. I'm just helping Andycro out. He's been trying to categorise images for ages how and the list just keeps growing. There are currently about 10 000 images waiting to be categorised so I don't think that Andy will mind if I help him a little. And about the speed I'm categorising images, it just doesn't take a long time to paste and save page (as all images are taken from templates (organization, newspaper, company etc.) I don't even have to think what category should be added). --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 20:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Lol. I accept your challenge, Sampo555. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you guys, I am quite busy (RL) these days, so the help is much appreciated! :) And yes, Sampo and Timeoin are crazy wiki machines, not bots! :D --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 17:24, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
We love you too Andy! Inlove
Oh, and the Party Logos are now added. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Grrr.... you two guys are making RC Patrol rather difficult.... actually, THE RC IS UNUSABLE; every time I enter it, I see a bazzillions robo-changes.... =)) By the way, well done guys! Keep up the "fight" (and edits) going! --Belea2008 08:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
We will, Belea! Sampo555 - I hereby acknowledge that you win this month (but only because I shall be gone from about the 16th or 18th of the month. And Belea ... Try this? (last 5000 changes :D) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 02:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
"Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 52428800 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 82 bytes) in /var/www/web12/web/includes/SpecialPage.php on line 353"--Belea2008 22:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I just think it's so nice that the original intent of the monthly contest to improve the content quality of this wiki has been manipulated and reduced down to a contest to make trivial edits like adding categories. I hope you both remove yourselves from that... or else that contest will seriously be left with nothing but these "automated edits"... - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 09:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Im not using a bot (or even a script) Jameson! :\ --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
That's why I put quotes around the words to describe these trivial edits... - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 18:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
You know, we can always deny them their right to the "monthly reward".... =)) --Belea2008 22:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, if your gonna be like THAT, Belea - I dont actually benefit from that reward - it goes straight to my Country's government :P --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 11:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)



I'm asking community approval for Frerkism. --FrerkIcon-Netherlands.pngBore me! 12:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

-1 No. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 00:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
-1 No. --Belea2008 07:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
+1 Yes - only because both Belea and Jameson have voted no to it. That, and that Frerk is a good egg.--Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
-1 No. my reasons are on the talk page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 19:05, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
-1 Sorry, but no. Not as it is now. More on talk page. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 09:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and I suspected that this would fail, too, but I didnt want to "follow the crowd" so to speak. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Party Membership Templates

If you have seen the Category:Articles for Deletion category lately, you might have noticed that there are a lot of "Member of Party" templates listed there for deletion. Ive been going through and adding them for parties that no longer exist in-game. I havent finished (yet) - but as you can see there are quite a few there. So ... sorry to all if this is considered "spamming" the wiki - but it needed doing. As you can see, theres quite a few there that arent parties anymore (and one or two that have just 1 member in them). --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

You actually don't need to put deletion templates on these. Unused categories show up here: Special:UnusedCategories. So what I do is change the party on every citizen page that is a member of the dead party and then the category will appear there. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Timeoin, slow down a little mate, you are too fast... :D First, you are not deleting templates, you are deleting categories, second it is much easier to do it on QJ's way and third - you wrote the name of my party president wrong. :P
Tim, maybe it is time to take a break, relax and watch the game between Germany and Australia! Go Aussies! :D --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 11:43, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the support Andy :) Sadly though ... the result was not good (Wasnt worth the 4am wakeup to watch it). Oh, and yes, I was speeding a bit with the changes - my net has been very dodgy lately, and drops out every 5 minutes or so. Ive been trying to get as much done as i can in short bursts. And capped internet too. Its just not my month, but oh well. This time next week ill be on holidays :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 21:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

What other projects or plans do you all have? Should our priorities shift? The templates take some specialized knowledge, but the other tasks do not. We need to use our brains and our time in the most efficient way to help the ENTIRE wiki before V2 comes down. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 20:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

+1[Let's do this.] --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 20:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

QJ, another one there is going at the moment is the one adding all the former Presidents. This is a minor one to these projects though. Ill work on the lonely pages when I get the chance - it may take a little while though as I am currently fairy busy with RL, Senate and Cabinet duties. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 22:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Added to the list. :D--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 00:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks QJ! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 02:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
If noone else wants to change over the congress pages, Ill have a go at that, but it wont be for a fair while before I get to it. *Fingers Crossed* that 3rd times the charm, and I suddenly become very busy in-game after May 06 --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 15:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I will do these whenever I have time and motivation. I also have occasionally killed lonely pages and I'll continue doing so.--Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 17:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Selected biography

Will this section ever be updated with new biographies? Who is adding - or rather not adding - the suggested biographies? --Quicksilver 08:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

When people actually stop adding themselves into the "added" instead of the "suggested" section... then the list may be less slanted ;) - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 10:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I haven't seen anyone added to it since I play.--Quicksilver 10:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I'll add mines then , once I create a short version of it.--Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 19:11, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
So we can just add ours without permission? Icon-Canada.png Auk Rest 00:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC) - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 01:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

So, it will forever remain that 20 odd biographies that were there at the beginning.--Quicksilver 10:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Quicsilver, could you please draft some sort of "biography approval guidelines"? --Belea2008 17:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
No, I can not, since I have no authority to add biographies. --Quicksilver 08:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Everyone is free to suggest a biography to be added.
  • When suggesting add a new section with name of citizen. There must be:
    • Reason for adding
    • Code for biography (Image on left, text on right, proper linkin in the end (Example))
  • Desision of adding is made by wiki Sysops

Like this? --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 22:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Honestly, I believe that whatever these "selected biographies" they appear, they should utilize and conform to our citizen page guidelines and manual of style as indicated in the discussion below. What essentially I'm suggesting is pretty much a rating process to promote "Feature Status" on Wikipedia. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 09:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Alliance map update

Read and share your thoughts here. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 21:43, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Would you like to take a greater part in administering the wiki?

eRepublik Official Wiki:Wiki Administration
The wiki sysop team is down to about three active people (AndyCro, Kuhaa, and me). We all have other responsibilities in life and the wiki has grown considerably since we started. We need new blood! So, all of those that have expressed a desire to become a sysop (or anyone else), please read the page linked and nominate yourself here. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Well , posted my candidature. I hope there are other candidates as well , otherwise its not interesting!Wish you luck all! --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 20:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Good idea. I like the name change of the procedure.... :D --Belea2008 09:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I would, but I doubt that it would be accepted. That, and I dont think id be ready yet either --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Being a sysop means a lot of your time is taken by admin tasks, not creating new content. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh, well - that DEFINITELY rules me out. I wouldnt have the time (yet) to give to administrative tasks. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 08:58, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Please Place your Votes

Three people have applied to be a sysop. Please go to eRepublik Official Wiki:Wiki Administration, at the bottom of the page, you will see the applicants. Please read their answers to questions and place your vote. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Here guys , I will save you some time , here are the 3 guys applicants links , vote, and get your cookie from Q J LINCOLN

Daniel Dimow
Rowan Quigley
You are invited to ask questions also , not only to vote. With love , honey and some other stuff, truly yours -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 15:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

New Sysops

User:Daniel Dimow and User:Grzechooo have been added to the sysop team. I thank both of them for volunteering and the rest of you for your input in the process. If you would like to be a sysop in the future, distinguish yourself with support of the administration tasks of the wiki, know and follow the policies and guides, help other users, and contribute often, well, and over a variety of pages. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

New Policies

We have been generally following these guidelines, but I thought it was time to actually write them down. Let me know if you have any questions. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 13:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

:awesome: --Belea2008 09:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I have one. I have made an edit to the Redirect Guidelines page. It should be telling people to use Template:DL instead of Template:L (Less expensive on resources, and in the example mentioned, there was already a page for it in the language.) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
With regards to Category Guidelines, I have a question. Why is it now only two people needed to create a category? I thought it was 3-4 or 5-6 ? (Thats what ive been told from QJ in the past with regards to categories!) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Changed it to 3. I thought people would understand "More than 2" meant 3 or more. but I made it clearer. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Im not that bright sometimes, QJ :P Its why Fry is my avatar :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 08:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

API List

If you remove any links or information from the API list page, move it to the talk page, please. For further documentation/reference...

--Belea2008 15:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


FYI: --Belea2008 16:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

New feature - comments pagination

  • Comments pagination was implemented (100 comments per page).
  • The date and time format for comments has been changed to: "Day 793, 08:17".
  • The icon for "Subscribe/Unsubscribe to comments" has been changed (actually, there are two of them - one for each action).

Let me know if you have question or suggestions. --Belea2008 16:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Updated to English and Finnish Article page. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 08:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Parties of Australia

Okay, im getting a tad annoyed with the number of parties that are being "created" each month (especially in Australia (i notice it more here because its the country I eLive in :P), so ... when I get back from holidays (tomorrow is my last day here) - im going to do a clean up of the smaller parties - and just put subcategories on this page as to what the party was called, who was party president for that month, etc. What do people think of this? Is it a good idea or not? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 03:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

It is a great idea. --Belea2008 08:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I think if a political party cannot survive at least three months, their core pertinent information should be consolidated into one article sorted by whether they're still active, which month they were established, PPs, the eRep Political Party Number it is (a lot of times people just spend 2g to have parties change hands, it's easier to group them that way if you so choose as well), and that's about it. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 17:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Our policy has been to start a new page for each time the party changes names because it keeps the links going to the right place. For example. Party A Becomes Party B. So you create a redirect so Party A goes to the page for Party B. Great! no real problem. Then Party B becomes Party C. Party B is redirected to Party C. Then it creates a redirect string that the the WIKI does not like. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 23:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I can understand that, QJ (and I agree with it too). I just mean that there are a LOT of parties that did very little other than exist. For instance, Australian Phoenix, and Australian Brolliance Party, etc. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 04:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, many of those were upstart PTO attempts which fizzled out and failed. I think a short summary would do the trick really -_-; QJ, I don't know about you, but I think we've gotten to the point where this wiki will most likely need to establish a notability standard. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 06:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
If you're talking about the Indonesian PTO in Australia, those parties are (currently) Poison and Perish Party, Australia Indonesia and Australian Labour. Apart from the Heart of Cerridwen Voeland, the historical parties were all Australians (as far as I can determine, anyway). --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 06:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
No, as in establish an outright notability policy of how long or well known (AKA Notability) or notable the party, org, etc is before receiving an individual article. Wikipedia has the same standard. I believe the party issue continues to plague the way articles are created on here, it is time for us to establish such a policy to curb this phenomenon before it gets any worse. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 07:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
My question to this would be - how do you determine the accuracy of this? I mean, there is little evidence (unless someone made a newspaper article about it or a shout, etc) when a Party name is changed - how would it be verifiable that this has indeed happened? Other than that - the idea is worth considering, in my opinion. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. It's something to think about at the moment. Establishing a standard now though will help what we do from now on. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 19:33, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Have you thought about sending a PM to each party president asking for more information to be put in his party page? --Belea2008 17:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

If you need me...

I'm not really into the whole editing biz. What I get a kick out of is page reformatting and making templates. I don't check in too often, so if you need either of these things done, or need help with some other task, just PM me in-game. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 01:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

All right. --Belea2008 08:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

If you need me...

I'm not really into the whole editing biz. What I get a kick out of is page reformatting and making templates. I don't check in too often, so if you need either of these things done, or need help with some other task, just PM me in-game. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 01:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

All right. --Belea2008 08:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Sething is strange in the wiki bar

Did you noticed that we have jumped from few sections (5-8 per month) up to 25 sections per month? :D It is nice to see so much activity on wiki. Great job people, please continue doing this great edits. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 18:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

It just got "Dimowized" , nothing else ;-) --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 18:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
lol nice ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 22:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I got scared that something has gone wrong, and then lol'd. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 18:40, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Andy, it is your fault. =)) --Belea2008 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Uber editor procedure

As two editors expressed their desire to become uber editor, I have created this sections for everyone to apply. I sugest that each editor that wants to become the uber editor reads this. Please apply till the end of June so the voting procedure could start in first week of July. Thank you. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 09:37, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Curiosity: what happened with the procedure (as in, a future Uber Editor to be nominated by one of the existing ones)? FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE! =)) --Belea2008 17:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Uber Editor candidate - Tim Veltkamp

=D i want to be nominated for Uber Editor, I've done lots of work with the (or linking to) Netherlands pages, also translating (Dutch-English) and assisted Timeoin on numerous occasions. (Done the most on the Presidents pages which were linked in Timeoins' sandbox), also made maps for the war lists. -- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes?

Why do you wish to become an Uber Editor? --Belea2008 08:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Patience , young skywalker :mrgreen:--Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 12:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Belea: I want to become a Uber Editor because i want to feel that im ready for this, to become something more on the wiki - if that made any sense :/ ---- Icon-Netherlands.png Icon-Australia.png Tim Veltkamp| Nubcakes? 01:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
"I made my first edit here on 29 December 2009, 09:09.", according to Tim's Wikipage. And seeing, how much work he does here, I support his candidature (if I can, ofc... I am just an ordinary user, after all :P). --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 09:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Uber Editor candidate - Mikhail Alexander

I originally posted it here User_talk:QJ_Lincoln#Nomination_for_Uber_Editor

I'd like to become a Uber Editor, I've updated most of the regions on the wiki (Who owns them, adding hospitals, etc.) and updating more as we speak and I make citizen pages for random eRepublik players, I also make pages for the current Presidents of each country, I'm willing to contribute more ot the wiki and more and more when I can. Icon-Australia.png Icon-EDEN.png Mikhail Alexander 03:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


+1 for both! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
+1 for both from here too. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 23:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
+1 for both of them. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 10:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


Just a notice that proposal for June rewards has been published. Lucky winners, please, write where do you want your reward. Thank you. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 15:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! --Belea2008 17:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Announcing my retirement

As the header states, I'm announcing my retirement from my positions of an Uber editor and Sysop. I haven't made any real contributions for a while, and lately I've been more and more stressed and tired. I'm quitting eRepublik and will start my compulsory military service in 12th of July, which will take at least six months, but it could be I'll be spending a year there so there's no way I can start being active again. I no longer have time or interest so I'm stepping down. I wish to thank my fellow sysops who guided me when I started here and later encouraged me to continue working hard. QJ, Belea, MiniBill and especially Andy, thank you for these past few months. Make Jameson a Sysop if you need more, he'd do great. I won't completely disappear, I might do few edits every now and then, but it feels stupid to have sysop rights when I haven't really used them for anything useful or constructive for a long time. However I hope my past contributions will not be forgotten, and I wish the best of luck for all of you who work hard and make honest edits. Now, for the last time, thank you for understanding. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 09:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Give me your facebook , so that I can stalk you for real. Your "holiday" (I hope you get back) is deserved. Good night , sweet prince ;_; P.S. useful is written with one l -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 11:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

OH KUHAA I will miss you so much! Good luck with your military service. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
May you wield the RL military mop and bucket in the same honorable way as you did with the Wiki ones! o/ --Belea2008 17:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Best wishes to you Kuhaa! :) I'm not as active as I once was either, so if there's another user who is more active, please give that user the mop instead. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 19:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Best wishes Kuha. (Who shall protect my Wiki page now?). This Wiki will be poorer without your input.----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 09:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar change

If your wellness is below 90, a red "+" will appear in the sidebar, near the "wellness number". On mouse over, a "get wellness" notice will appear. If you click on it, you will be directed to the "Get Wellness" page: --Belea2008 17:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Updated Homepage. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 18:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! --Belea2008 07:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Military unit Implemented

After testing Abedecian's Military unit template around 1 hour, I did left a message to Belea, but he didn't responded, so I took the risk to implement it,although he didn't responded. If you encounter some issues/problems, please do fix them if you can or contact me or some other colleague. As discussed, we shall implement the templates with the blue color, which is similar to the current eRepublik style, and maybe as time passes by, we shall take into discussion if there are going to be any color touches on the templates, but after that neither actions were taken, neither testings for the backwards compatibility were made, therefore someone had to get dirty, and this time it's me. From the tests I made, everything worked perfect. Hopefully no one encounters problems. And yeah, basically that's it. -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 17:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I put a note on the template talk page. The template is putting the pages into a different category than what already exists. You have 2 choices, change the category or change all of the pages in the military of categories.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Uhm, changed the category for now, maybe someday I'll play to change them. Anything else you've found ? --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 18:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Also the word "colours" is in BrE, which contradicts the overall in-game usage of American English. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 20:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, three sections were removed in the new template. Nickname, Current Commander, and Past Commander. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 20:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
The documentation wasn't up to date. I fixed that by myself. I also have a question. Why does the template have to be made by feching three different pages? I mean that what is the point of those Military unit/Code, Military unit/General, Military unit/Structure if all of that could be on the same page? Oh btw, if there is no country specified, it adds the page into category Category:Military Units which is deleted. So it should be removed. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk 21:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Newspaper Implemented

Oops, Dimow did it once again. I hope you colleagues realize that soon eRepublik Rising is coming, and we must look modern ;-) Therefore, don't hesitate to edit the new implemented templates, if you find something wrong/malfunctioning.
About the Military unit template: @Jameson L. Tai - colours has been changed by someone else,not me. And I'm aware of the missing sections, but as in the discussion, they were requested to be removed.
@sampo555 Thanks for fixing the documentation; I've only "inserted" so to say, the template, the original worker on it is Abedecian, but if you think it'll be better when the files are merged, then please do so, or request it on the talk page:) I'll see what I can do about the category
Yours, --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 17:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

  • You cannot claim the templates are completely backwards compatible when you deliberately remove previously used sections. You can code it so that the inclusion of the sections are optional, but the data should not be excluded. That's just not right how you could say "we're ignoring current and past commanders" by wiping coded data on so many articles. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 17:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I just follow what has been discussed, as Abedecian too. For those whom control the unit/has controlled once/ it can be written in the article itself.
For example a table can be created. I am not wiping out the information, if I go and remove it from the template,I'll add it to the article. --DanielDimow||Speak to me. 17:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I look forward to you editing each and every single article that has been affected, and adding the individual pieces of information back into their respective article's main text. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 18:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


I think we have a lot of people doing their own things where we need some better coordination and cooperation and prioritization. This is how I see it.... Since new citizen and region templates have been implemented, the first priorities should be to update the other templates for a coherent look.

# Job Volunteers
1 Update the Organization template with the new style Daniel Dimow and Jameson L. Tai ~ Abedecian?
2 Update the Company template with the new style Daniel Dimow and Jameson L. Tai ~ Abedecian?
3 Work on the Lonely pages. Timeoin, QJ, ANYONE!
4 Work on current event pages (that are no longer current)
5 Work on implementing the name changes to all congress pages as discussed in April/March naruto-ate-a-penguin
6 Work on listing the pages that will need to be changed when V2/eRepublik Rising/eRepublik 2:Headless Chicken Boogaloo. We can expect to get information on the game changes before/at implementation from eRep HQ so trying to pick through the information we have from Insiders is really a waste of time. AndyCro
7 Adding pages for country presidents See Timeoin for details, also Volunteering Tim Veltkamp and Mikhail Alexander.

Citizen Pages

I have noticed something that is lacking in a lot of citizen pages.... quality. For example, do not write "Joe Schmo" doesn't have a newspaper." If he doesn't have a newspaper, then why are you stating so? It doesn't matter. Also, listing skills is a bit of a waste because they change daily and are clearly marked in eRepublik. Listing an employer is kind of useless too because it changes often for a lot of people and this information isn't really helpful or relevant. I would rather have a citizen page with two sentences of relevant information than a citizen page with 500 pages of repetitive, useless information. Not all people need a page in the wiki. Only people that have DONE something (held office, got a battle medal,etc) and can be linked to other pages in the wiki should have citizen pages. That is my opinion.... What say you? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 20:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah , I support this. I also wanted to discuss this : Click me! If I need to make myself clear , just say it. But I think it's clear enough what I want to express with that page. --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 20:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Again I'm going to put my two cents towards establishing a notability standard. In addition, a proper manual of style. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 23:32, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Daniel, I do not fully understand...
Jameson, then go for it and create the drafts for them.
--Belea2008 08:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Jameson, please begin to draft what you think is needed. However, we have given tutorials, help pages, and a style guide to users. And no one seems to pay attention to these. So I am not sure MORE policies is the answer. Establishing some sort of notability policy on the wiki is hard to enforce and might turn away editors. "YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE A WIKI PAGE." --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I completely agree. We're not here to turn away editors. What I'm saying is that we need to begin establish a manual of style for the various major types of articles. Additional content may be added if the sections are notable (AKA I'm not saying don't write the article, I'm saying don't write useless sections outside of the standardized parameters. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 17:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to force people into that. This isn't wikipedia. Our standards are a bit different and we allow for SOME creativity. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 19:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Then what are you suggesting? You either let people do whatever they want or you set parameters to have articles conform to certain standards. There is no middle ground on this one lol. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 20:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC
If there no middle ground, then I'm for creativity. --Belea2008 17:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
A suggestion "for the win" here would be this: a citizen needs a page on the wiki if either a) as QJ Lincoln described, they have done something important to eRepublik OR b) they have done something (maybe less important - at least one new page other than their citizen page) to the wiki. (EDIT: That way instead of plainly saying "U CANT HAVE A PAGE ON THE WIKI, U FAG" the wiki would encourage the future editors to do something to it.) Aperture Science Business Magnet 21:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


Can we put Gobba's map embed into the Map section of the Miltary Portal, we then can get rid of the imagemap and it automatically updates itself, if not Gobba's map maybe the eRepublik map? Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander 00:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool idea, go code it. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 04:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
It might be interesting. But yeah, we need coding. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 07:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

-1 We have good coded maps there , only the image should be changed once in a while.-- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 10:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

DD, if RQ can get it to work and self update, we should take a look at his proposed map system before we reject it before we can see how RQ's system works. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 16:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Jameson on this one... Let Rowan shows his magic before we reject his idea. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 18:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I was only suggesting in putting there, I was looking up how to put embed flash in and all I got was going into the wiki database, and placing files there, which I wouldn't have access too Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander 00:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
So... do we have any solutions to this one? --Belea2008 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, I think it needs an extension to allow embeding flash into pages. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

"User" boxes on Citizen Pages

I am not sure of the usefulness, aesthetics, and purpose of "personal navigation templates". For what I am talking about please see" Jameson_L._Tai and Mikhail Alexander. (I am not picking on you guys, these are just quick examples.) Personally, I do not think these are appropriate for citizen pages. We have a template to regularize the information in the wiki, from the citizen page tutorial "Templates are pre-made styles that help users enter information, categorize pages, and make the wiki look more uniform." These type of templates set off the citizen page as more important or different than all other citizen pages. It also turns the citizen page into more of a website for yourself... not a factual wiki page. I don't care what you have on your USER page, and I have no problem using templates there as it puts helpful links at your fingertips. I would like to know comments from the community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by QJ Lincoln (talkcontribs)

Just for the record - the above comment is from QJ LINCOLN. And I also think those boxes aren't needed there. Only a profile template , like mines for example , for a quick switch, between sections. --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 15:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree with QJ and Daniel Dimov. Your citizen's wikipage has nothing to do with your wiki user account. I would prefer adding "See also" section in the end of the article, where could possibly be a link to userpage... --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 16:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
How about what I have at the top of my pages: Martin23230 and User:Martin23230. Much cleaner, simpler but also has the same function. Similar things exist on Wikipedia also. Oh, and Daniel I don't see how yours is any better than the two examples, it is still a huge random box on top of the page. Personally yours is a worse offender of this than Mikhail Alexander. Oh, and can we do something about (i.e. ban) random music on pages, Jameson_L._Tai was rather startling, especially as I was on a school computer. This is meant to be an encyclopaedia, not MySpace.--Martin23230 16:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Daniel, (thx for signing for me) I consider yours out of bounds for the citizen page. It might not be as flashy, but it is still not needed. Martin and Sampo are on the right track. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I wish to know Rowan's and Jameson's arguments... --Belea2008 17:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Since I was named, this is what I'll respond to QJ's comment. This issue goes right back to the comment QJ wished to express earlier in the Bar. A notability standard will need to be created for what is supposed to be mentioned in a character/org/newspaper/country/party/alliance article and create a Manual of Style that establishes a proper structure as to what these articles should carry in terms of standardization. This is the "there's not middle ground on this" I was referring to. The templates indicate my character's associated work, which to my knowledge, without a notability standard, each and every article I am involved with could be argued as "notable" and appended to the template I see fit. In addition, without aesthetic standards, the usage of images, colors, etc have not been regulated except in the standardized templates such as the {{Citizen}} templates and so on. What QJ is proposing is not without merit, however until we as a community reach a proper resolution as to what is and is not acceptable via notability and manual of style, more "MySpace", more "annoying" and more "irrelevant" templates could be made by other users as they see fit without these standards. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 19:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

In the citizen template there's a small link with title "Wiki" right under the citizen's name. It leads to citizen's wiki userpage if such exists, isn't that enough? Don't know about everybody else, but when I edit Wiki, I do so as a person behind the citizen, not as the citizen. In my opinion what we do here isn't directly connected to our eRepublik citizens and therefore such navigation templates shouldn't be placed on citizen pages. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 20:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I guess I am a bit confused when it is said that standards of the wiki do not exist. Doesn't the citizen template give basic direction on what should appear on the page? Also doesn't Help:Contents (just that page) provide guidance? (Factual and Neutral... difference between user page and citizen page... and the citizen page tutorial...) There are over 3400 citizen pages in the wiki and most have pretty standard content about the citizen - template and a narrative about game experience, wars, businesses, etc. It might not be written in a official policy, but over time, standards of what is relevant and appropriate have been policed by the community. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 20:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I use this template alot to get to my Sandbox quickly, I'm on different computers all the time and I don't have bookmarks to add it to the browsers. I like it and I can make it better by adding more to it if you wish Icon-Australia.png Mikhail Alexander 22:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
QJ, that may be, but without a policy, no one can really dictate what can and cannot be on the article. What is aesthetically pleasing to one may not agree with another. What you think clutters up a character page may provide more direct insight to a character/wiki page's work. Just as naviboxes are useful in country, party, and org pages, they are useful in character pages as well. Where to place these naviboxes, how these naviboxes look, etc... these are a matter for the community to come to consensus. Without this consensus, a policy cannot be made. Without policy, there's nothing to enforce. Without enforcement... well you get the idea. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 02:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

These are de facto policies:

  • Navigation boxes should be used sparingly and only on pages that are in the "Playing the Game" category. These boxes can be used in the "User" name space. Navigation box templates should use the standard template Template:Navboxes. (We had a big navigation box clean up at the beginning of the year. Putting them on other content pages require too much upkeep and usually duplicate the function of the category.)
  • Citizen pages are about the citizen/character/game entity from the game eRepublik. At minimum, the citizen page should have the citizen template (with avatar image) and text describing the citizen and his or her activities in the game. Citizen pages, like all other pages in the wiki, should be factual, neutral, and link to other wiki pages. Citizen pages should not use details that change often (skills, employer) that are readily evident on in game citizen pages. The only exception to this is the Achievement Templates. If a wiki editor has a citizen page, he or she is welcome to place a link to his or her user page. However, the editor should not describe contribution or wiki activities on the citizen page, this information is for the user page.
  • User pages are for the the wiki editor to talk about his or her real life or wiki contributions. The user talk pages are used to leave messages/have conversations with wiki editors. The user namespace can and should be used for the development of articles or templates. Pages in the user name space should not have categories or be linked to as a way to avoid the regulations of the wiki.
  • Templates should be created and used as needed. Templates should be created to regularize content, provide notices to users, or to aid in the navigation of game explanation/instruction pages. Templates not used, not used on multiple pages, or serve the same purpose as the category, will be removed by the sysops. User signatures should not be templates."

--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Autoplay of music or videos is not allowed in the wiki. Users may use Template:Video to embed videos on wiki pages.

--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

^ --Belea2008 16:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
^ When were these policies implemented? Where were these posted? Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 05:02, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Yesterday and here.... These are the defacto policies that we as a community of editors have been using. Most of this is restating what is in other places...Help, Citizen Page Tutorial. And then the rest are developed out of the way that we have been managing the templates and moderating pages. They have never been written down, what I wrote above is codifying custom and tradition. We have never had the need to spell out these policies until now. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:47, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
If you're removing the discussion part of the process, then just make a page in the eRepublik article space and put it down as a policy. -_-; Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 20:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I never said they weren't up for discussion. All I am saying is that these are some of the guidelines we have been using for the last year or so. If you have a different idea, feel free to voice it. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 00:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
If they are truly up for discussion, I prefer to have you create a separate page, separate each individual section for individual improvement and discussion. Then we can later vote to have the community ratify the new official policies. Icon-USA.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/United States Rangers 09:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I invite all editors to comment here: User:QJ Lincoln/Sandbox --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)