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I think this template could be handy --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 18:27, 4 November 2008 (EET)

Usage? :D --Belea2008 20:00, 4 November 2008 (EET)
Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:ELink --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 20:05, 4 November 2008 (EET)
That's pretty neat, actually. Does it let you color the link?- –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 06:36, 5 November 2008 (EET)
Of course, because parameter 3 can be almost any text (including <span>s <div>s <font>s '''s ...) --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 22:32, 5 November 2008 (EET)

Company Template...

Can you all look at some suggested changes to the company template? It is on the template's talk page. --QJ Lincoln 05:54, 11 November 2008 (EET)

What are you (specifically) talking about? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 15:56, 11 November 2008 (EET)
I just want to know if anyone has objections to making the proposed changes. Some of the fields in the original template no longer make sense for companies. I also would like to know if a certain Italian template Wunderkind could help me change the template.... :) --QJ Lincoln 17:16, 11 November 2008 (EET)

Censorship

What do you think? IMO Aryamehr hasn't quite got the difference between free speech and obscene speech --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 21:42, 11 November 2008 (EET)

Though I no longer find the "f-word" that offensive. This really isn't the place for it. I would imagine that the 10 rules of eRepublik apply here - so the f-word is out of bounds. I also think, once again, someone is overreacting to a non-issue. --QJ Lincoln 22:18, 11 November 2008 (EET)

As I said. "So you as a sysop of this wiki, say that articles on things like "Fuck" and things like that should not be allowed for others to read about? You are the worst sysop I have ever seen. This is called censorship and censoring." What's wrong with Fuck? It's a word. If anyone wants to read more about it then they should. I bet if you were a leader or something you would censor all these stuff. Censorship, bet you love that don't you? --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 22:29, 11 November 2008 (EET)
I never said I would change the wording if someone used what is generally considered foul language. I said that if the 10 rules of Erep apply here,(#7 No racism, extremism, pornography, vulgarity or spam is allowed) then the word is out of bounds. I never said I would delete it or edit it - though I know Admin has in the past. ---But I don't think this is the real issue here, Aryamehr. Apparently you are very angry about something and taking it out on the wiki, specifically MiniBill. Can you please address your real issue rather than creating one out of nothing? --QJ Lincoln 22:40, 11 November 2008 (EET)
lol, QJ Lincoln, my message was not directed you but Minibill. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 23:11, 11 November 2008 (EET)
If free speech was permitted on the Wiki, The Book of Dio and the views of Pakistan would be entirely uncensored.
Seeing as you fought to have it censored yourself, I recommend you drop your hypocritical argument and try to regain the respect of the other editors. You're making a fool out of yourself. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:45, 12 November 2008 (EET)
Also, this shouldn't even need discussion. The Erepublilk forums are censored by the Wigs, and the Wiki is also heavily censored. It's in the Terms of Service. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:47, 12 November 2008 (EET)
Who told you to write your opinion? :lol: --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 18:55, 12 November 2008 (EET)
What about you, child? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 21:41, 12 November 2008 (EET)
>Oh no! He's right! I guess I'll just slip him an ad hominem insult and pretend that he isn't completely correct.
Grow up, you don't need to insult everybody who proves you wrong.
I'll end this sentence with an emoticon since I want to look pompous. :awesome: - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:03, 13 November 2008 (EET)
Awwwwww he got OFFENDED. :lol: cheftun & billy would make a great couple. :mrgreen: --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 00:37, 13 November 2008 (EET)
Wikipedia:ad hominem Wikipedia:WP:POINT Wikipedia:WP:No_climbing_the_Reichstag_dressed_as_Spider-Man and I've nothing else to add --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 00:41, 13 November 2008 (EET)
I believe my previous comment still qualifies. On /v/, the term we use to describe the inferiority complex that stems from losing is butthurt. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:51, 13 November 2008 (EET)
Wikipedia:Bill_the_Goat :lol: --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 00:45, 13 November 2008 (EET)
:lol: thanks for the link. --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 18:10, 13 November 2008 (EET)
Hey guys... I hate to be perfectly honest, but this is the internet, and the internet is uncensored. Seriously, FUCK isn't banned in-game (we've all gotten away with it at one point)(although I did get banned but that was different). I say we have the templates (and not just Sausage), but let US CHOOSE whether we use it or not. --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 03:55, 21 November 2008 (EET)
Sorry, but I seriously doubt that free speech will be permitted in the game. Ideally, it would be permitted, but eRepublik is supposed to turn a profit. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 17:52, 24 November 2008 (EET)
Sorry, but I seriously doubt that vulgar speech will be permitted in the game. Ideally, it would be permitted, but eRepublik is supposed to promote common sense. Fixed! :lol: --Belea2008 21:51, 24 November 2008 (EET)
Oh, you... Everyone knows that eRepublik's thrived on being illogical since the beta. :awesome: - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:13, 24 November 2008 (EET)

As far as I know.

http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Admin&oldid=22364#Deletion

This (the link above) has still not been resolved. It's been 2 months now almost. Time for some action? --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 20:09, 8 November 2008 (EET)

It's been resolved. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:27, 9 November 2008 (EET)
It has not, "remove any insults towards other nations or Citizens", still contains those.--Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 00:34, 9 November 2008 (EET)
We consider that you are both mature enough to solve this issue without our involvement. If you are unable to reach a solution, we kindly ask you ask the help of other Editor/Authors. --Admin 16:51, 12 November 2008 (EET)
You must be joking --Emerick 00:26, 18 November 2008 (EET)
I think the template at the top stating the pages contained relgious beliefs and were fictional is enough. --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 03:58, 21 November 2008 (EET
I am thinking on doing a, "create thousand of new religious pages insulting everything and everyone and put a template above it, thus bring down the quality of this wiki and make it seem like a playground for 4chan.org", apparently it's allowed. Will be a nice way to abuse the system, because it seems like that's the only way you can get people to change their views nowadays. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 23:30, 21 November 2008 (EET)
I am thinking of "linking you to where you've tried this before with your "China/Religions Views" edit war and showing you where it was deleted because it was blatantly stupid, irrelevant to the game, and libelous, and then telling you again that making rule-breaking pages to prove a point is still against the rules, and that you even tried this a second time when your fanclub swung by and vandalized 20 pages and wrote an insulting fanfic, and all of these attempts were removed because the authors refused to comply with Admin".
Anything else you'd like to add, Aryamehr? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:34, 22 November 2008 (EET)

Wiki system is amazing

All the system messages in this page can be edited. Any suggestions further? :D --Belea2008 21:30, 19 November 2008 (EET)

I just noticed that page, too much power... (maybe move the text containing the two buttons (back to erep, create wiki account) to the correct message? )--Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 22:11, 19 November 2008 (EET)
Yeah, I have a suggestion. It's not going to be easy, though. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:13, 19 November 2008 (EET)
MediaWiki:Common.css --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 22:15, 19 November 2008 (EET)
Exactly, that's what I was looking at. I meant it's not going to be easy because there's probably a few hours worth of work to make it look like the game. Also, going through that list might take a little while. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:26, 19 November 2008 (EET)
Need any help? --Belea2008 23:41, 19 November 2008 (EET)
...Wait, you want me to skin the Wiki? Don't you think this is a task for, you know, your development team? I mean, I'd give it a shot, but it sounds like offering to have me do it could be a mistake, as far as the large gap in qualifications between your team and a... is concerned. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:38, 22 November 2008 (EET)
I proposed that you (at least) expand your idea. Every idea is implemented by a team. What is (usually) your role? --Belea2008 22:56, 24 November 2008 (EET)

What should/shouldn't a sysop do

New sysops?

Do you think that we need guidelines for becoming a "sysop" like here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship ? --Belea2008 01:11, 20 November 2008 (EET)

I like it, a lot. This wiki, much like the game, is growing exponentially. More sysops, chosen by the admins and the public (if like Wiki, how it used to be when I actually edited it way back when) would be a move in the right direction, imo.
- ThisGenMedia aka Franco aka Teacher Amerikkka/The Party Hey girl, can I hit you back? 02:14, 20 November 2008 (EET)
Syops should be a small group of people who have been active wiki editors/authors, have not been banned from the wiki at any time in their history, and have produced quality articles/edits. --QJ Lincoln 07:02, 20 November 2008 (EET)
Isn't that assumed?
- ThisGenMedia aka Franco aka Teacher Amerikkka/The Party Hey girl, can I hit you back? 22:38, 20 November 2008 (EET)
>have not been banned from the wiki at any time in their history
Even if they weren't given a valid reason were only banned to be fair to someone who was blocked for edit warring? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 20:05, 21 November 2008 (EET)
I think banning from the wiki might need to be looked at a case by case basis. If the person had made a lot of valuable contributions then the banning could be excused. However, if the person is a repeat edit warrior and spends his/her life throwing wiki fits and being cantankerous for the sake of pissing people off I do not want them to have any type of authority here. --QJ Lincoln 20:30, 21 November 2008 (EET)
What are you trying to say cheftun? Are you still sad and angry that we freed China? and then India became free? Did we scare you people? You got scared? :( What a pity. Not nice to run away though with your clowns as soon as we are about to kick your ass. Either way, I was never banned if that's what you are trying to say so. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 20:58, 21 November 2008 (EET)
>I was never banned if that's what you are trying to say so.
>13:47, August 30, 2008 Admin (Talk | contribs) blocked Aryamehr (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 day (autoblock disabled) ‎ (Vandalizing and insults)[1] :awesome:
OH SNAP! --QJ Lincoln 22:09, 21 November 2008 (EET)
That's when you got banned as well and later both of us got unbanned because the ban was not fair and right. So it does not count. QJ, for a sysop you are acting very professional. Well done. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 23:16, 21 November 2008 (EET)
Didn't I explain that above? I'm sure I covered that with "(I was) only banned to be fair to someone who was blocked for edit warring". Redundant redundancy is redundant. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:27, 22 November 2008 (EET)
I'm pretty sure that I never announced that I was leaving, but you can correct me if I'm wrong. Also, you might want to look into India a bit further, you'll be surprised. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 21:51, 21 November 2008 (EET)
QJ, in that case, I hope the bureaucrats see 2200 edits, writing policies, advocating neutrality, creating many necessary templates, and introducing many overlooked commodities (Personal sandboxes, signatures, talk page archiving, reference citing) as valuable contributions. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:00, 21 November 2008 (EET)
You actually contributed nothing to this 'game' other than working on stupid /v/akistani pages that no one really cares about and causing fights and trouble. Sandboxes? You created that? Haha. Advocating neutrality? So funny. Good joke. Many neccessary templates? All you created was little /v/akistani or dio templates to masturbate to. You are boring, really. Try again later. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 23:16, 21 November 2008 (EET)
It's rather ironic that you are accusing me of picking fights, especially considering your history of starting edit wars and vandalizing pages. You're insulting me right now, as a matter of fact. Want me to list all of the contributions I've made (I've made plenty that are not Pakistan-related), or do you want to wait for a sysop to swing by and block you for what you're accusing me of doing? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 00:22, 22 November 2008 (EET)
Man, seriously now, jokes aside. Stop threatening me with the sysops doing this and that just because they happen to be pro-/v/akistan. Even if they are sysop they haven't changed anything in my views. Thanks. It's just for your own sake so you don't embarrass yourself. On a seperate not, ass is not an insult/curse word. Ass is a part of your body where you poop from. Masturbation is not insult/curse word either, it's something many does and there is nothing bad about it. Now will you please stop editing what I write or do I really have to talk to admin about this? :( --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 01:36, 22 November 2008 (EET)
You might want to learn what the word "context" means. Also, are you going to remove all of the insults above, or do you want me to highlight them and show how they break the rules? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:27, 22 November 2008 (EET)
I'll go ahead and highlight all of the insults you've made in this section in red, since you appear to be missing them.
Your contributions are noted AC - :) and thanks for returning us back to topic --QJ Lincoln 22:09, 21 November 2008 (EET)

-Aryamehr, respectfully, what have your comments in this section added to the discussion of what type of people should be syops? --QJ Lincoln 04:26, 22 November 2008 (EET)

If you for once put away your bias and love for 4chan maybe you could ask cheftun the same thing as he started to spread false information. Regards --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 15:33, 22 November 2008 (EET)
PROTIP: Most Goons STRONGLY hate 4chan. How can you not know this?
Also, I haven't spread any false information at all. What the hell are you talking about? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 01:38, 24 November 2008 (EET)
I haven't the slightest idea... I have decided certain issues are not worth my time anymore. --QJ Lincoln 03:06, 24 November 2008 (EET)
1- Keep your bull about goons somewhere else.
2- I thought QJ said he is not a goon?
3- Goons against 4chan or not, I don't care after all you worked (even though failed on everything) together in game.
5- "not worth my time" yet on erep wikipedia 24/7, good joke. I am the best, remember that. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 16:32, 25 November 2008 (EET)
Hey, Agent, What does this latest rant have to do with the topic at hand? Can you translate? I think it is some sort of attack on a person with the name QJ that is male..--QJ Lincoln 16:40, 25 November 2008 (EET)
Absolutely nothing. I'm still laughing at him counting "1, 2, 3, 5". - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 19:21, 25 November 2008 (EET)

Holiday mode

See you saturday... --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core have a biscuit 00:57, 21 November 2008 (EET)

Adiós --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 03:58, 21 November 2008 (EET)
(the 29th) --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core have a biscuit 16:39, 21 November 2008 (EET)
I don't think you have a biscuit. Enjoy your bun with your loving family and best friends. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:04, 21 November 2008 (EET)

Category for one article

First of all... A category is an organizational tool that groups articles of a similar theme or topic. One item does not make a group thus does not make a category.

Against deletion

Pro deletion

+1 -A category with only one article should be deleted if there is little chance of ever having another article added to it or has been been created for the sole glorification of one person. In this case the category is not being used for organizational purposes, it is being used as a label, as a self made badge of honor. --QJ Lincoln 23:49, 23 November 2008 (EET)

I agree that they should not be used for vanity, like in the case you're referring to. However, this isn't always the case. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 01:23, 24 November 2008 (EET)
Which reminds me, you need to learn to worship me. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 16:48, 25 November 2008 (EET)
If by "worship", you mean "laugh pejoratively at your failure", then I'm already a master of the art. You're the wiki's comic relief. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 19:25, 25 November 2008 (EET)
I guess you do everything nowadays to try and talk to me even though I ignore you. My message was not directed to you kid. I know you already worship me ;) --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 20:09, 25 November 2008 (EET)
She's more than welcome to join me in laughing pejoratively at your failure. Also, you might want to learn the difference between "ignoring" and "responding with playground-esque insults", although maturity and manners seem to be beyond your means. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 20:46, 25 November 2008 (EET)

Undecided

Please bring arguments when stating your pro/against deletion option. Thank you! --Belea2008 21:14, 23 November 2008 (EET)

lol thing is if he since day one asked nicely I would consider it but removing it and forcing me to remove it etc won't make me happy. besides, it does not hurt in any way. Someone is just trying to.....hm.. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 21:56, 23 November 2008 (EET)

Tabs (by Belea2008)

Steps:

  1. I took the templates from Wikipedia:
    1. {{Template:TabsTop}}
    2. {{Template:Tab1|Current page name}}
    3. {{Template:Tab2|Other page name(s)}}
    4. {{Template:TabsBottom}}
    5. {{Template:TabsTopWithEdit}}
    6. {{Template:Tabs}}
  2. I created a template to use the tabs: {{Template:Bar/June2008}} (later edit: changed to {{Template:Bar/2008}})
  3. I created the pages to be used as tabs:
    1. eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/June2008
    2. [[Bar/June2008/MiniBot]] (later edit: changed to eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/July2008)
    3. [[Bar/June2008/]] (later edit: changed to eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/August2008)
    4. [[Bar/June2008/UFO Pages ???]] (later edit: changed to eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/September2008)
    5. [[Bar/June2008/Maps]] (later edit: changed to eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/October2008)

Limitations:

  1. {{Template:Tabs}} - it does not allow more than 9 tabs.
I'm asking... :D We need at least 12 (for the one year Bar archives). And one tiny thing: please, add here what changes did you made, because my head still hurts from trying to figure out the solution to this problem. Thanks in advance! --Belea2008 18:58, 28 November 2008 (EET)
Done --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core have a biscuit 16:51, 1 December 2008 (EET)
  1. {{Template:Bar/June2008}} - if you put a space (" ") in the name of a tab, it will make that tab name to be on more than one row. Therefore, using spaces is not such a good idea...
  2. [[Bar/June2008/#if]] - the name of this page appears like: "Bar/June2008/" because of the "#" in the title.

Very nice. The discussions in the tabs seem rather short, though, Why not tab the archives by month? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 19:47, 25 November 2008 (EET)

Done. Thanks for the idea... --Belea2008 00:04, 26 November 2008 (EET)

Civility

My friends, I would like to bring up an important topic - Civility. Particularly Wikipedia:WP:CIV. Most editors and writers here are civil. Some are not. Read and discuss.--QJ Lincoln 17:14, 25 November 2008 (EET)

As an act of contrition. I will be the first to apologize for any comments that might have been interpreted as uncivil. --QJ Lincoln 17:14, 25 November 2008 (EET)
Great actor *claps* --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 17:21, 25 November 2008 (EET)
I was serious. sarcasm in this case is considered uncivil. why do you persist? --QJ Lincoln 17:36, 25 November 2008 (EET)
@Aryamehr - I'm also curious what is your answer to QJ's question. --Belea2008 19:30, 27 November 2008 (EET)
I don't persist. Be my friend, I will be your best friend. Be my enemy, I will be your worst enemy. Do me wrong, I will not forget and probably not forgive. Do me good, I will repay twice as much. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 20:22, 27 November 2008 (EET)
There aren't many people that act rudely on the wiki, really. Aryamehr's the only editor I can think of that's consistently disrespectful and disruptive. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 19:30, 25 November 2008 (EET)

Idea: If two or more people have a "dispute", then they should use their talk pages to solve it. If they do not reach a "consensus", then they could ask for mediation. Therefore I'm proposing we introduce Wikipedia:WP:MEDCABAL. Anyone wants to find a "Uber name" for it and make a draft for the specific pages? --Belea2008 11:05, 28 November 2008 (EET)

Definitely a good idea, I've tried doing something similar by asking other Uber Editors to comment on an issue, and QJ regularly does the same. Although I think the Uber prefix is a bit distasteful, why not "Uber Mediator"? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 23:22, 28 November 2008 (EET)

New sysops 2

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!!!!!

BALEA WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!!!

or am I going crazy..... It is possible... or the coffee is affecting my eyes... I see black spots instead of pictures.... --QJ Lincoln 19:04, 26 November 2008 (EET)

I'll explain this in half an hour. Your eyes are fine! --Belea2008 19:11, 26 November 2008 (EET)
eRepublik is participating at LeWeb (Fifth Edition, December 9th/10th). The team will create a special newsletter for this event and they will need the latest pictures I uploaded (the protected one) for this. What happened? In order to upload the pictures fast (and to keep a similar URL for them), they set in the code of the Wiki the variable $wgHashedUploadDirectory as false for one hour. So, this issue will be back to normal in about 60 minutes. Sorry for the scary babelfish that you see on some pages! --Belea2008 19:36, 26 November 2008 (EET)
Participating and this, at that, at this, at that yet the game is worse than beta still lol. --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 21:12, 26 November 2008 (EET)
Done. --Belea2008 21:22, 26 November 2008 (EET)
Go back to the Bar!