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NOVEMBER VOLUNTEERS NEEDED

To the wiki community,
Are you looking to get more involved in the wiki? Are you looking to improve your wiki editing, writing, and/or coding skills? Are you looking to pick up some extra gold? Below is a list of tasks and ongoing projects that require help from the wiki community. EREPUBLIK NEEDS YOU!

Input needed

• Need thoughts about template redesign and people with the energy and know how that are willing to refurbish templates for the entire wiki, see eRepublik:Bar/Debate 9
• Identify more Sysops

Special Projects

• Work on adding newspaper articles from the game to the wiki (see User:Belea2008 for the list and guidance)
• Wrap up these "Current Event" articles Category:Current_events

Ongoing Projects

• Special:LonelyPages - These are pages that don't have any pages linking to them.
• Category:Stub - These are stubs. They need templates, images, text, and/or updating.
• Category:Formatting - These pages need templates, to be reformatted or wiki-fied.
• Category:Translations - These pages need to be translated and then put in the proper LangMenu format (Help:Translating Pages).
• Countries - Country pages ALWAYS need updating.
• History - History pages always need updates, make sure entries are GLOBALLY relevant and have Category:History

Anyone is free to tackle any of these projects. Feel free to ask any questions here. Gold will be paid out to the people that take on the most labor intensive tasks, who put in a lot of work and effort, and who do a THOROUGH job. We can always see what you have done by looking at your user contributions.--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 19:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Country stats

As you must be aware, the Info tab on the main menu has changed a little. All stat pages were merged to one page Country stats. I created that page so we have something to start building a page from, but I'm a little unsure how to proceed. Here's a few suggestions:

• As expressions such as Social stats or Military stats, we should move these pages under following names:
  • Social stats -> Society
  • Economic stats -> Economy
  • Politic stats -> Politics
  • Military stats -> Military
• As clicking Country stats in-game opens Society-tab, I think we should move it's information to Country stats and redirect Socials stats and Society to page Country stats. I think redirects are better solutions than changing link names, as these pages must be linked in quite a many articles.
• Tree structure on Main Page, and page Info need to be updated.

Please discuss and share ideas how this situation should be handled.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 18:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I really really really hate it when eRepublik changes things and don't give us a heads up. Are we the official information center of this fxxxxxx game or not? We shouldn't have to say... "hay guys, I noticed this...." and then make changes a WEEK after it happened. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 19:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I have raised this issue to the one in charge (the fact that we are rolling out changes which is not known by the community). :(

Regarding the actual change, I thank Kuhaa for pointing it out. I propose to make it tabbed. What do you think?

--Belea2008 15:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Tabs sound like a good idea. I guess I'll leave this in your hands now, because creating tabs from a scratch is beyond my skills and I'd probably end up breaking something. What about pages' names? I don't think we can stay with these current "X stats" and "Y stats", so we'll still have to move those page. After implementing tabs, should we just fix links leading to current pages? Here's a list of pages we'd have to edit: Social stats, Economic stats, Politic stats and Military stats. What about Country administration? It can be found both both from Country stats and My Places so how should it be treated?-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 18:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

By "tabs", I was trying to propose the creation of a navigational template - like this one: Template:ProductsNavigation/Core. What do you think?

About fixing links, just move the pages and I'll make sure that "Admin" does the "boring" task of fixing the links.

About Country Administration and Country administration, I consider that these pages should not exist and the page should be called "Administration".

--Belea2008 09:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The problem with Country administration is that it's called Country administration in "My Places" and just Administration in "Country stats". Navigation box sounds like a good idea. Would this do the job?

I also suggest we keep pages Country stats and Society separated although "Society" is the tab that opens when you click Country stats. If there's no objections, I'll make a template and move these the four pages under the names listed in my first message. -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 17:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

+1 Well done. Go for it! --Belea2008 12:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I knew I had to mess something up. :/ While moving the pages, I forgot to move all the subpages, so the translated pages remain under the wrong name. I tried to revert the moving so I could move them back with subpages but it didn't work. So now somebody will have to delete pages Social stats, Economic stats, Politic stats and Military stats so pages Society, Economy, Politics and Military can be moved back and forth. Once again I am truly embarrassed and sorry for all the trouble I caused. It would be nice if this would be done asap. :) -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 13:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

"Social stats, Economic stats, Politic stats and Military stats" deleted. --Admin 14:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Moving back and forth finished. Let us know if you require further assistance. --Admin 15:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Now what needs to be done is fixing all the links leading to these pages. Also, page Info and Main menu need to be updated on translated languages as well as Main Page's tree structure. I already did this on English pages but there's still much to be done. I will be fixing all the red links but I can't do it alone as I'm running for president and will be busy for the following week(and the following month if I get elected).-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 17:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

All the Infos and Main menus have been updated to match the current Info menu. Many of them were horribly outdated so I did a few other edits than just the stat pages as well. I'll now take time to fix Finnish pages.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 19:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Kuhaa, whenever you do not have time to deal with a page which is outdated, yet you stumble upon it; you can tag it with the Template:Urgent. It puts them in a category and it tells the reader that the page is outdated. Me busy also in the following 2 weeks. --Belea2008 00:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh yes, I had completely forgotten about that template. Oh well, I decided to go the extra mile and now most of the pages are fixed. Actually, there are only the translations for pages Society, Economy, Politics and Military left. And also Bar and few sandboxes but I don't see them as an issue. Funny thing is that "what links here"-pages still claim that some Main Pages have links leading to these pages, but I couldn't find any. Must be due to the "tree structures", though I already fixed those. Only things that bother me are Portal:Main_Page/Punong_Katayuan and Main_Page/Filipino. Are we adding Filipino or should those be in someone's sandbox?-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 13:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox.. as well as the page someone started for macedonian. All new langauge pages should be done in a sandbox until the required amount of pages have been created for the language to be added. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I now feel comfortable to declare this "case" closed.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 11:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

A religion...

I'd appreciate some feedback on Bobloism in the Religion talk...

Cheers :D Jan Baykara 16:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I've never taken part of a discussion about eRepublik religions so I can't be that much a help, but shouldn't there be references? -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 16:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

References on the talk page ;) Jan Baykara 16:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Finland-Latvia War II or Latvia-Finland War?

I'd like to hear your opinion about this page: Finland-Latvia_Wars. Finland-Latvia War started when Finland occupied two Latvian regions in order to get high grain. After a while Finland was pushed away from Latvia and the countries didn't share border anymore. Yesterday Latvia attacked Southern Finland, and now someone has made a page calling this event Finland-Latvia War II. I think this is incorrect. As far as I know, battles between two countries are considered to be part of same war unless there was a peace treaty between. Now there wasn't, so wouldn't this battle(and those to come) go under Finland-Latvia War(NOT Finland-Latvia War I!)? Also, if this was to be called a completely new war, it should be named "Latvia-Finland War" as Finland-Latvia War II suggest that Finland attacked again, which it didn't. I already brought this up on article's talk page, but afterward I thought it would be solved better here. I suggest Finland-Latvia Wars to be deleted and information be moved from Finland-Latvia War I and Finland-Latvia War II back to Finland-Latvia War. What do you think? -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 20:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

The second "war" should be included in the Great War of 2009 as it is a part of the ongoing machinations of that conflict. It is separate from the earlier conflict, but is not a stand-alone war in itself. I suggest deleting Finland-Latvia War II and adding it as a battle of the Great War. --Chris Stanwick 20:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I'll wait a day or two before adding deletion templates, because someone might want to add something. I'm also glad to see you're back, Chris!-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 20:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It's good to be back. I'm not 100% yet, and won't be for a long time, but at least I can sit up and use a computer again. It looks like I have a lot to catch up on too. --Chris Stanwick 20:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Good idea, Chris, and (sort of) welcome back.

Also, as a side note, I propose that all these types of discussions (military ones) to be moved to eRepublik:WikiProject Military after they are completed. Or to be started directly there.

Just a random thought...

--Belea2008 14:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Gold offers

• Page change: http://www.erepublik.com/en/get-gold/gold
• What has been changed: the Gold offers were introduced.
• Existing page: Gold_offers/FAQ
• Page that has to be created: Gold_offers

How do you guys and ladies wish to tackle this one? --Belea2008 10:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Or do you think it would be better to put it directly in the Buy Gold page? --Belea2008 10:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd say let's put it in the Buy Gold page. I also believe that Alerts pages need to be updated.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 11:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I have created an example of how Gold offers would look like with current information for it (a picture could be implemented, of course). It is basic information taken from link above. I wouldn't put it on the Buy gold page as it already has too much information. I would rather add section Earn extra gold by completing offers and adding link to the gold offers page. Of course, if you decide to implement it on the Buy Gold page, you are free to delete my work. ;) --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 09:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

New Main Menu

Main Menu bar has been updated with one completely new section Gold and Extras. I have a picture of it and I'm ready to upload it, but I have a question. We currently have a clickable image map on pages related to Main Menu, but updating them all in translated languages will be a real pain. Should we create a template to make it more simple? I think the image map is great and I'd like to see it stay. I uploaded a new file and tried to get the measures right, but I don't know if it worked because it takes some time for image to update.

The image turned out to be pretty poor quality(and it's bigger in every aspect than the previous one) so we'll need to work on this. But I believe it would be easier to just update few templates than few dozens of pages if there are changes to menu bar in the future. What do you think?-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 11:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Template ideas sound good. Also, your attempt with Image Map above is working fine , but...

...the Menu you are seeing is part of "live split testing". What I understood (from the tech guys): there will be more variations of the menu bar (or other sections of the website) - they will be seen by less than 10% of the citizens/organizations (there's also one variation with the Gold + Extras button all blue without the small Gold icon on it).

The goal of the "split testing" is to see which of these variations have a better impact on the eRepublik community (user friendly/increased usage). After a final decision is taken - which of these variations will be rolled out to the entire community, I will let you know. Feel free to share your thoughts about the subject.

--Belea2008 12:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

This is the version I have, and I think it is better than then one above (the green just looks out of place IMO, and although you want the gold buying feature to be noticeable, its actually a turn off for me. The gold icon could be added though.

As for the menue itself, I find the current layout a lot better. It seems more logically where the submenus are.

--Patti11 12:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I like the patti11 version, the green is too much distracting, though the gold icon should be added imho to leave that little bit of differentiation between the norml buttons and the "special" Get gold. The submenu division is much better and i like it. --Furio ^"UBW" 12:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the blue one looks better, that green stands out a little too much. Belea, do you have any idea how long will this testing phase last? Also, I wasn't aware of this so sorry about the picture, it was too soon to start making changes. I'll revert the picture to the old version(that's why my imagemap is(will be) broken) until we know something about this for sure.-- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 12:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

My money is on the blue version with the gold icon on it. The unequal distribution of menu items (Home is so short compared to the others) is a bit annoying. I would make them all a bit shorter, so they can be of equal width.--Quicksilver 19:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[Insert agreeable opinion with "Either way really doesn't matter to me personally. I don't think it makes that huge of a difference] --Dish

I don't like the Green. Keep it all blue. The green is disjointed. (ask a lady about color)... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Good work on both of them. I also suggest creating a horizontal version for the tree structure.--VSkyzv 06:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I have forwarded this discussion to the one in charge. Thank you all for the feedback! --Belea2008 09:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

The blue version with a small Gold icon on it has been selected and it is available for everybody. It will be only a single button (like the homepage button) and not a menu with submenus. Enjoy and thank you all for your help! --Belea2008 16:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

News Flash

Check this out this article it is what we have been waiting for... This also explains why I am deleting redirects....--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

That's good news! No more redirecting citizen pages. \o/ -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 20:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

OK baby, this is all nice... But do you know that now I will have a lot of work to see what pages have to be linked in other way??? xD --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 21:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

But, lets be serious, maybe off topic, but I see that you have deleted some templates. I have removed templates for Romanian and Norwegian pages from the articles, but why did you delete, for example PCPPres? (I am not saying that this is bad, but I would like to know the reason :))--AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 21:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

And why is our Admin deleting redirect like United States?--AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 21:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I deleted those templates yesterday in a fit of wiki rage. The discussion last month? September? was that region and party navigation boxes weren't needed because the categories were there to fill the role. I didn't do them all because they really need to be removed from pages first. As for the party presidents... we cannot support the categorization of party presidents. It is too much and really not necessary info. We can create categories for country presidents, but party presidents, no. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

As far as redirects, I told Admin to only remove those redirects that begin with - Citizen, Country, Region, Party, Company, Newspaper. A few other redirects are being deleted, like when there is nothing linking them, redirects that are not needed, etc. I am checking these by looking at the "What links here" page. Inevitably, some needed redirects will get deleted in the shuffle. We are doing this manually to try to not replicate the damage that was done in May. In some cases, we will try to fix links in articles to remove the need for some redirects. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you QJ for this fast answer, I thought that this was that. So, we are removing categories that are really not needed, especially connected to the parties (you could asked for help, you know that?), and while we are doing that our Admin is removing all redirect (needed or not needed, it won't be the first time). But, as I would like that this process ends before continuing to update articles, I will take a break until this Saturday. I hope that he (any you) will be finished with deleting redirects until then. But, if you need any help, I will be here, doing some minor changes. :) --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 09:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, gang, Part I is complete. However there are some more redirects that need to be removed. But before we can do this, we need to do some link changes on pages. How you can help:

1. Go to Special:ListRedirects
2. Pick a redirect - concentrate on the language ones first...
3. On the side bar, click the "What links here" link.
4. View the list of pages that use the redirect
5. Go to the page, search for the link, and replace it

Let me know if you have any questions. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for red links that have appeared... Some pages were deleted before their time. I am working to fix these. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

No way! I apologize for the not needed deletions. QJ has nothing to do with that idea. --Belea2008 17:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Poking Around

Is this where I request to become an uber editor? I have experience with WikiText as a former active English Wikipedia editor and have been in the game for quite some time. The reason I'm applying is because I'd like to import some of the templates over from en.wiki including some of the military-related templates for users to be able to put devices (stars, oak leafs, etc) on top of military ribbons. This could be used for most military distinctions and could bring in custom awards from every country's military in to the eRepublik.

Also want to help maintain the integrity of the eRep Wiki as well. I have participated in countervandalism work on en.wiki and would be able to assist with CVU-related work as well. If I just barked up the wrong tree, please let me know and I'll post on the right page. Thanks. - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / USMC} 06:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Check out eRepublik:Uber_Editors. Also, Uber Editorship doesn't convey any powers, it is more of a recognition of your work in the wiki. As for uploading templates, only eRepublik:Engineer can do this and that role is based on a number of edits. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 12:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I understand that, but there's also no mention as to how users may attain their Engineering usergroup. There's no application process that I'm aware of where I may sign up. - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 13:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

You are given the Engineer role once you hit 400 edits. There is no application. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrats can also grant the Engineer status, but, of course, that contributor must have done something really special in order to receive it. --Belea2008 17:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

On a related question, is there a user category for Engineers so I may reach them about importing a template over from en.wiki? I tried Category:Engineer and Category:Engineers and they were redlinks. I'm trying to see if I could get this done one way or another with the next week or so. Thanks. - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 01:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

You can write in here, in the Coffee Bar, for contacting some of the most active engineers. --Belea2008 12:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Cool. I'm trying to get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ribbon_devices imported over to eRep wiki so military personnel can easily mark repeated service awards with the appropriate ribbon devices. Can an active engineer help me with this? Thanks. - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 12:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 06:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

This seems to be a fairly sophisticated template and beyond my skills. I also have problems borrowing real life service ribbons for a virtual game. Is there even a process in place to "award" such service ribbons? What stops a person from adding these to their page who doesn't really deserve it?--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

(unindent) We are not borrowing the real life ribbons, we already have our own (See Military Decorations, Medals and Insignia of the United States Armed Forces) and we are simply borrowing their template for our usage. Also, it is standard practice for these military ribbons to be added on the word of the soldier (plus if this is Wiki, we can always change discrepancies if someone tries to add every single one of them for kicks). This is already standard practice via the original venue where these ribbons surfaced, on the US military forums. It has worked for the past 7 months, it should be fine. - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 21:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, sorry, I didn't make the connection... PS "Operation Frostbite Ivan" is my favorite operation name. Talk to Belea2008 about adding you to the Engineer group. He is the only one with the power to do so. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

We have added Jameson L. Tai to the group Engineers. --Admin 13:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

YAY! :D Thanks! - Private First Class Jameson L. Tai ^{talk / US Marine Corps} 15:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

What if the party change just its name

As stated in the What if... section, it's said that there should be created a new page as if it was new party..., but sometimes it just overcome a change name, the people, principles, project stay the same.

What to do in that case?, I just got an example, just look at the history page of this party, I had created a redirect to the new name (so inwiki and maybe ingame article's linking don't get lost but go where it should be appropiated), but well, probably due to this week changes, it get erased, so before doing it again, I wanted to get an idea of what to do... if theer is a differente policy about it, since personally, I don't get why it should be craeted a whole new page just for a slight change name, since it even didn't mean a new era or something.

Its obvious that it need to be mentioned inside the page that the name got changed after that discussion that day, and etc

Thanks, ;)-- Purohueso (talk if you want) 05:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

It is easier to create a new page rather than a redirect.

• We are trying to keep the numbers of redirects low.
• It is one thing if the party changes its name once, but lets say you get a party that changes its name 3 or 4 times, that means you have a whole chain of redirects - A Party -> B Party -> C Party -> D Party.... This is overly complicated for data management. It is confusing for a user who clicks "A Party" and the "D Party" page appears. And it also shows up on the Special:DoubleRedirects page that we monitor - this is a bad thing.
  --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

But it is also more confusing in terms of facts..., followed by the party... but its the party itself, and in the sake of space used..., it's better to create just a redirect with a pair of lines of code... than a full page with all the party information again (or it got even more confusing for the ones reading). I dont know if you understand what I try to say, :P
-- Purohueso (talk if you want) 17:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Examples... This is where this system has worked well. Forward Britain! and Movement for Democratic Unity. The party changed its name for 2 months and then changed it back. The MDU page has info about Forward Britain!, but also more info is on the FB! page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I think I finally got the idea. I will apply it. -- Purohueso (talk if you want) 20:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I got another question about "special cases" of party pages: this party (Movimiento Americano Social) has been present in 2 countries (when the chileans where living abroad in eArgentina, and the actual party in eChile). I know that I could just put 2 sections in the page as "In Argentina" and "In Chile", and even maybe put it on top as some sort of dissambiguation, but what about categories, since the argentinian one had his precesors and succesors, while the chilean obviously had others..., and just thinking also about when it comes to categorize the party under "Parties of Chile" and "Historical parties of Argentina" both. The problem won't be solved by using "Movimiento Americano Social (Argentina)" or something like that, since both parties are named the same and when it comes to reference them, unless they know about the existence of it, they will put the chilean one. Any suggestion of what to do? -- Purohueso (talk if you want) 20:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

When parties have the same name, like in that situation, there really should have been a disambiguation page. At "Movimiento Americano Social" with links to "Movimiento Americano Social (Argentina)" and "Movimiento Americano Social (Chile)" --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 20:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Chat - help needed

• Overall page that needs to be creates: Chat - http://www.erepublik.com/en/chat/rooms
• Other changes:
  • Menu - My places - Chat rooms link
  • profile page: http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/44212 (list of chat rooms appeared at the bottom)
  • Rankings page - new filter (chat rooms): http://www.erepublik.com/en/rankings/chatrooms/all/0/1

--Belea2008 16:31, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I am working on these.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

• Chat - need someone who owns a chat to fill in some additional info and screens
• My places - done, need other language versions to be updated
• Rankings - Done, marked other language versions as out of date
• Profile -doing now.

Thnak you! --Belea2008 15:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

NOW HEAR THIS - OFFICIAL CHANGE

From now on, we will no longer allow the use of "navigation boxes" on party or region, or citizen pages.

• What am I talking about?I am referring to boxes like this
  

Regions of Peru
Chimor · Great Andes · Lima · Low Andes · Mid Andes · Northern Low Amazon · Southern Low Amazon

• Why? Well, first of all they aren't needed. Since every region, party, or citizen has categories, the navigation box is redundant. Second, they quickly become out of date... Parties change name, regions change hands during war...
• Exceptions: Exceptions will be made for the general "playing the game" pages. Many of these pages have similar boxes which are helpful to users.
• This was discussed a few months ago in the bar. I just wanted to notify people so that they can start being removed.

Thanks for your cooperation. I also wonder if a citizen category like "President of Country" would be helpful instead of the generic "Presidents" category? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:48, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

+1 "President of Country" category.----Hrvat User_talk:Hrvat 22:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

+1, but only it the President of Country will be subcategories of Category:Presidents. --AndyCro Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 23:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Of course they would be, AndyCro! I believe that someone has already started "Presidents of Poland" and "Prime Ministers of UK" categories which would fall under here.--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 02:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Translations

I have been updating pages like Chat, Company, Company (presentation page), Buy Gold lately. Of course, I have been making changes to the English versions. On some pages I have added the Out of Date template to the translated pages. But I am wondering if there is a better way to notify our wiki translators that the English pages have been updated/changed and they should update the translated pages.

My suggestion is to create a Wiki Translators page where we list what pages have been updated recently so people know to update the translated wiki pages. I would find this easier than having to add a notice to all of the translated pages if something was updated. Thoughts? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 02:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

+1 I would certainly appreciate this. -- Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 10:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

See Wiki Translators Bureau --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Redirecting

Geo told me you have decided to disallow the use of redirects. May I propose for it to be allowed in the case of sysops? --adi.furk i want fallout in eRepublik

Now that is not totally true... We have not disallowed the use, we have just curtailed and cut down the use.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Does that mean I can redirect "ep" "EP" "xp" and "XP" to "experience points" ? --adi.furk i want fallout in eRepublik

No, we are promoting this type of link convention: [[Experience points|EP]] or [[Experience points|XP]]. Link to the original page, it makes things so much easier in the long run. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I have never searched "experience points". I always search "ep" or "xp", just check the file, all of it is filled with (EP). Plus, in the image you can see that it says "xp points". So, a citizen should quickly reach the desired page when looking for "ep" or "xp". We must also take into consideration that caps might be activated, and generally I don't care that I use or not caps, I want to find the information fast. --adi.furk i want fallout in eRepublik

• slams head on desk* I am just trying to make things standardized. For example, if an article uses "EP" then the translated article will use EP, so then we have 15 redirects for EP in the list (with different languages) and it just makes it a pain to deal with. We might create redirects in the future to make searching easier, but for now please just link to the original article. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Evrika! I get it now! The idea is to remove "EP" from every other page that contains it, and keep "EP" only in the "experience points" page. Great Idea! --adi.furk i want fallout in eRepublik

You've got it champ! I am trying to formulate my crazy scheme into words (and directives) because User:Admin left a huge list of questions on my talk page. I know what should be done, I know what needs to be done, I just haven't had the time or energy to articulate it yet. Just hang with me for a while. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Small bug regarding regions with a space in their names

They don't go to the correct Wiki link.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Central-Greece
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/New-Jersey
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Western-Transdanubia
etc... --VSkyzv 04:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)