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I added a new template for voting(copied from it.wikipedia), it's purpose it's to categorize all the voting pages.

My idea for voting is:

  1. someone makes a proposal
  2. voting starts (as already happens)
  3. after n days, the result of voting is applied

2 days as deadline:

3 days as deadline:

We need more votes to reach a decision --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core wanna chat? 20:25, 4 September 2008 (BST)

TheSupernatural Got Banned!

What's up with that? --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 15:04, 2 October 2008 (PDT)

It was probably because of that horrid The Killers quote on your profile. I would have perma-banned for that ;) -- James Allan, because I can't(read: don't want to) figure out that signature junk.
Nice try, but it wasn't that. Apparenlty, "Fiddle the USWP" doesn't follow eRep's 10 Commandments. At least it's only temporary, and I'll be back on tomorrow afternoon. --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 17:57, 2 October 2008 (PDT)
lol fiddle --Emerick 15:44, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
Nice, Agent. I didn't see that one coming.
In other words... I quote George Carlin: shmokespoodlefiddlecantsockcluckermomafiddlertah-tahs.
--TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 21:58, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

State your opinion 1

We want to add this:

Books.jpg This article is a citizen biography, therefore it is likely to contain fictional information.

to Template:Citizen because every citizen biography contains information that can be challenged. This would make citizens invest time and energy in useless sources finding when they can work on improving or creating other useful pages. --Admin 04:18, 5 October 2008 (PDT)

-1, many of the citizen biographies are real or already marked with the fictional template--Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 04:25, 5 October 2008 (PDT)
-1 Rasta Lion Esteban Rasta Lion Delgado Rasta Lion 08:34, 5 October 2008 (PDT)
0 - I thought is was generally assumed that citizen biographies were embellished and or somewhat fictional. The only statements that would be challenged would be those that insulted someone else or was an outright falsehood (Like if I wrote I was the Queen of Sweden). --QJ Lincoln 10:47, 5 October 2008 (PDT)
0 It's pretty much the same as Template:Fictional, but making it a mandatory addition might lessen the amount of edit wars on the Wiki. It can be degrading to a genuine biography, but advantageous in stopping petty fights. I'm undecided. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 14:02, 5 October 2008 (PDT)
-1 If it's not fictional, it's not. Can't force a fictional on it lol --Aryamehr Flag of Iran talk 14:08, 5 October 2008 (PDT)
-1 I've tried to keep anything fictional out of my bio, so I don't particularly want it being labelled as fictional.
FSgt Paddyohale UK Feedback? 12:21, 6 October 2008 (PDT)

State your opinion 2

Help:Contents is the only article in the Help: namespace. I think we can do one of two things to group it with some more useful information:

  1. Move the page to eRepublik:Help (With the shortcut EREP:HELP)
  2. Remove {{Policy}} and add more pages to the Help: namespace, like Tutorial → Help:Tutorial

What does everyone think? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 11:01, 20 September 2008 (BST)

This page is linked from the navigation menu --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core wanna chat? 13:04, 20 September 2008 (BST)
That can be easily changed, though.
Also, I forgot to add that Help:Contents is intended to be a table of contents for help pages, and not just a general help page. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 13:23, 20 September 2008 (BST)

Region pages

I have completed the monumental task of creating the remaining region pages for every country. I have created redirects from all cities to the appropriate regions. No longer will city/region links be red.

  • I would like to thank all of the other people who created region pages before me, specifically writers who worked on pages for UK, Ireland, Canada, Sweden, Germany, Denmark, and Poland.
  • I would like to thank User:Nikolaos Sauzer Zachariadis for his excellent "region of country" templates. They are helpful and forced me to do the USA region pages (that I was dreading)
  • I would like to thank everyone who has edited the pages after me to update population, mayors, etc. or to add their own images and text.
  • I would like to thank User:Belea2008 for his intervention in my Wikipediholism. (I will get help, now that I have finished this. I swear, man)

--QJ Lincoln 12:04, 7 October 2008 (PDT)

Wiki articles in other languages?

In the nearer future I would like to start creating wiki articles in Czech language to provide a representation to new and potential players. Those articles would be translations based on the English counterparts. My only question right now is if it is allowed to create non-english articles? DaLe 12:34, 8 October 2008 (PDT)

Well, I just helped some Argentinians create a page in Spanish. Argentina click the "En Espanol" link. There is also a page in for Bretagne in French. I think that if the page is a translation of one in English, it is ok. I also think that if you have a short page, that it should be ok to translate sections on that page. I think other people should weigh in on this topic. --QJ Lincoln 12:49, 8 October 2008 (PDT)
I think that making localized templates is feasible but it requires more work --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 12:46, 10 October 2008 (PDT)
I don't think we need to go as far as making new templates. I just think that if people want to translate a page, they are more than welcome. I think the templates have such basic information they are understandable. See what the Argentinians did, I think they did very well. --QJ Lincoln 16:46, 10 October 2008 (PDT)
"I like the idea and I'd like to see wiki articles in other languages. Also, Erepublik itself is going to be translated in several other languages. Thanks guys for your work and for your suggestions" --Cristesco Hai Steaua! bla bla bla 02:17, 11 October 2008 (PDT)
Well, when I posted the question above, I didn't realize that there was this new thing when you work/train/fight. I don't have anything against the idea of it, but I will delay my plans to attract czech people into this game, as it will be a huge language barrier for the time being. In any case, as multi-language support is planned, I would have two follow-up issues. 1) I'd suggest to implement an universal naming-convention for non-english wiki articles straight away. Either allow people to use their native language for the naming of articles (eg. 'Česká Republika' for 'Czech Republic') or make it a policy for people to use their language code behind the name for the translated article (eg. ../Czech_Republic_cz) so that someone speaking only English can quickly realize which non-english article belongs to which English article. 2) I am glad to read that Erepublik is going to be translated into other languages, but I would be interested a) if there is a time estimate for that and b) are these translations going to be professional or will you rely on the community to do all/most of these translations (incl. main wiki articles)? DaLe 06:27, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
LOL. Professional translation for the wiki? Erep didn't bother to have professional tech writers write documentation for Beta, I doubt they would spring for professional translators. My feeling is that any translation in the wiki will be based on player initiative. --QJ Lincoln 07:45, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
Heh, I meant mainly those wiki articles that are part of the 'information core' (tutorials, info on game, ..). Regardless of the wiki, how are the in-game issues supposed to be translated? I understand that the czech RL market is not that interesting, but I am also a native German speaker and I have experience with translations, so I am of course interested in how the development of the multi-language support is going to look like. Obviously, everyone is concerned with V1 release right now, so I am in no hurry with this issue. DaLe 09:43, 13 October 2008 (PDT)


Who created all of the small flags that have been integrated into the templates? I think we need some more, preferably for the conquered countries - such as Russia. See Manifesto to see what is needed. --QJ Lincoln 17:28, 10 October 2008 (PDT)

V1 Testing Ends Today

Hopefully we'll have the game up and running in the next three days. In other news...
ADMIN BANNED ME AGAIN!!! --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 09:56, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

Oh my Jah, the end of the world has come. It is Armagideon time!
Rasta Lion Esteban Rasta Lion Delgado Rasta Lion 10:35, 12 October 2008 (PDT)
You are not banned. What are you talking about? --Belea2008 11:56, 12 October 2008 (PDT)
If I wasn't banned, then why did it say I was banned when I tried to log in?
--TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 13:19, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

ALSO, V1 on TUESDAY!!! --TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 13:19, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

LOOK AT ALL OF THE COLORS GOSHDARN - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 14:07, 12 October 2008 (PDT)
That's only making things worse. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 20:24, 12 October 2008 (PDT)
O_o --Sandtux Pakistan prevails TALK|HIST 09:01, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
What is it? Is there a problem, Sandtux? - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:06, 15 October 2008 (PDT)

Need help?

It seems that the wiki is going to change a bit with V1. I don't know what all the current wiki projects here are, so I am a bit clueless on where I could contribute. But, if anyone should need help with something here on the wiki, please let me know. DaLe 06:42, 13 October 2008 (PDT)

I think at this point, we should be working on the current pages - making links, adding templates, fixing grammar, and spelling. From V1 testing, it seems that some tutorials have been written. I expect that the Admin will be adding those to the wiki in the next 24 hours. --QJ Lincoln 07:39, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
All of the pages in this category Category:Playing the Game will need to be reviewed, updated, or put into a the Category:Beta once V1 is deployed.--QJ Lincoln 08:10, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
Ok. I'll try to help with that. Looks like there will be a lot of editing needed. DaLe 09:26, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
"I expect that the Admin will be adding those to the wiki in the next 24 hours."
You are right about this. But most of these pages will need wikifying. Have fun at editing! --Belea2008 10:37, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
Check out My places I think it is pretty (if I do say so myself) :) --QJ Lincoln 13:38, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
It would be really cool if you split the menu on top and the image on the left into two clickable tables like they are in-game.
Rasta Lion Esteban Rasta Lion Delgado Rasta Lion 14:11, 13 October 2008 (PDT)
Should I remove the Menu, 'back-to links' and other V1 links in all Beta articles I come across? To me it seems that it would make sense to create a beta-menu and avoid inter-linking between V1 and Beta articles as much as possible either way. Maybe only adding a "For up-to-date information on this subject, please see 'link'" to the top of Beta articles? DaLe 15:32, 13 October 2008 (PDT)

V1 Integration - Getting the word out

How do we get the word out to people that to match up the wiki page with V1 - they should turn the Citizen Joe Blow' page to a Redirect Joe Blow page? Having pages with the prefix of Citizen, Newspaper, Company, etc. is irritating and makes searching hard. --QJ Lincoln 06:30, 14 October 2008 (PDT)

Sounds like the job for a dedicated bot. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 06:44, 14 October 2008 (PDT)
What needs to be done? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 13:15, 16 October 2008 (PDT)
Possibly. Since people can make pages DIRECTLY from the wiki, they are forgetting things like templates and links and categories and sausage. Maybe I am am just grumpy because my clicking finger is sore from all the images I did last night. ;) --QJ Lincoln 07:02, 14 October 2008 (PDT)
That could easily be the reason. Give the poor thing a rest for the day, your finger worked it's patootie off. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 04:08, 15 October 2008 (PDT)

I wrote a tutorial for V1 Integration! Help:V1 Integration
Help spread the word to n00bs that don't know redirects --QJ Lincoln 18:45, 15 October 2008 (PDT)

It can get confusing... luckily I still know how to do it. *redirects all*... See?
--TheSupernatural Me, on a good day Who wants to be a Supernatural?The SaNdBoX 17:45, 20 October 2008 (PDT)


What do you think of that page?

While I was seperating some articles into Beta and V1 categories, I came across the articles listed in the [:Category:Beta Library]. The idea of the Library was to add into it in the future all those tutorials, guides, introductions, etc. that players would create for other players. DaLe 11:46, 20 October 2008 (PDT)

Need Template for Organization

For some reason, Erepublik developers, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to make SO URLs with "Citizen" ... I think we now need to create a template for organizations to keep them separate from companies. I have no problem converting ones that exist already. I just need someone skill at templates to create it. I have started it at Template:Organization --QJ Lincoln 23:26, 25 October 2008 (EEST)

Hey, wait. I think I did it right. I am going to test it out on some other pages. Let me know if you have any problems with it :) --QJ Lincoln 23:40, 25 October 2008 (EEST)
Looks right at first glance. Have you had any problems with it yet?
I'm not in the mood to mess with it tonight, Template:Clade gave me a headache yesterday, so I'm taking a breather. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 03:50, 26 October 2008 (EET)
The only problem that I can see is that the Headquarters line isn't showing up. I can't figure out why. Also, the owners, founders, and subsidiaries are not showing up as links. I am not sure if we want them to be links or not, but I think they were on the company template.--QJ Lincoln 04:57, 26 October 2008 (EET)
There was a slight error in the usage, not the coding. There was a random "*". I've just corrected it. Shows up now on National Bank of Japan. It doesn't automatically link though. Should it? Did you want to "LinkRow" Headquarters? What about Founders and Owners which are not LinkRow'ed, when Founder and Owner are?
-Laurana Psion- (My Whiteboard) 00:56, 28 October 2008 (EET)
HQ should be linked, as should founders and owners, as long as they allow for multiple entries. --QJ Lincoln 01:49, 28 October 2008 (EET)
For technical "problems" founders and owners can't be automatically linked, and I think HQ should 'not be linked, because that would create a heap of red links --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 15:13, 30 October 2008 (EET)
HQ would be the region and all region pages have been created. --QJ Lincoln 15:28, 30 October 2008 (EET)
Do you want me to Link HQ? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 15:47, 30 October 2008 (EET)

Using templates

I'm thinking about using {{Ambox}} to create a notice where someone does edits like these:

I've got just the thing. Hold that thought. - –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 21:51, 30 October 2008 (EET)
Doom cyberdemon2.png

' 'PROTIP: To defeat the
Cyberdemon, shoot at it
until it dies.

- –Dr. AgentChieftain Flag of the Crescent and Star PPP! B / C / D / F / P / S 22:44, 30 October 2008 (EET)
Uh? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core call me! 15:40, 31 October 2008 (EET)

Visual changes

The new visual changes are:

Also, time displaying changed. Enjoy! --Belea2008 18:01, 31 October 2008 (EET)

Query: Same Name

Is there any general policy on articles that have the same name? eg. If a political party has it's own organization with the exact same name! -Laurana Psion- (My Whiteboard) 23:28, 31 October 2008 (EET)

You would need to create a disambiguation page. --QJ Lincoln 01:48, 1 November 2008 (EET)
Go back to the Bar!