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Categories

I just want to make clear whether we want categories like Category:Ministers of Education of Romania. If we should keep them, ok, if not, let's remove them, but the rule must apply to all the articles.

You can check subcategories of Category:People of Romania and state your oppinion. --Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 13:00, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I'd get inspiration from your notability policy, i.e.: by only keeping MoD, MoFA and MoF categories.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 14:02, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
We have to finish the draft for notability ASAP so that we can deal the categories and citizen article pages. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 21:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Decorations

In February 2014 I created a page with Decorations offered by the game at missions or contests to have a wiki page with all decorations. Today I updated the page, but I don't know if the page is completed, because I don't know if these are all decorations offered by the game. Who can help me with this "problem"? --Icon-Romania.png mib_boby | Talk 21:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I was a bit away lately and only noticed the post. A player has made a great site where I believe he added all the decorations there erepublik-web-guide --"Gucio «Talk»" 22:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Mentor Program

Playing on the Wiki I found Category:Wiki Mentor Program and I thinks this project is cool. It's any chance to be reactivated? --Icon-Romania.png mib_boby | Talk 23:36, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

A good question from mib_boby. Even better would be, is it possible to reactivate (revive) anything here? The wiki is almost dead and only couple of active members are keeping it alive. If something doesn't change soon, then wiki will be dead completely. So, my answer to mib boby is very simple: If you are willing to give it a chance, then maybe you can revive the mentor program. I have corrected the links on mentor pages (all of them can be found here), but main problem is to find mentors - and then you have to update pages about mentors (Category:Wiki Mentor Program Members and eRepublik Official Wiki:Wiki_Mentor_Program/Mentor_List) and find a way to get the message to newbies that mentor program exists. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 13:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
No proper maintenance, no party.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 01:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
If we wanna to revive wiki, we need to convince our friends to create a wiki account and to help us to update the Wiki. A good way to contact newbies is to send a message in the game, on the wiki they don't know how to talk. I will publish these days an article in Romania to invite the citizens to create wiki accounts. After that, I will try to be a mentor for them to explain what they need to do and to contribute.... --Icon-Romania.png mib_boby | Talk 12:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


cleaning up

Some of you have maybe noticed that today I have put almost 200 articles in Category:Articles with warning - 90 % of this articles are stub articles for dead citizens. In next two days I will add approximately 400 more and this is only the first part of the cleanup as I am reviewing lonely pages now, and next month (after deletion of articles form the category), I will review Category:Formatting and Category:Stub for articles not touched for more than a year and I will repeat the procedure.

I know that it would be faster and easier to delete the pages but I am trying to follow the procedure as best I can so feel free to check the category if you think some of the articles are worth saving. If nobody will complain in next 15 days, articles will be deleted on July 31st, August 1st, 2nd and possible 3rd if I don't manage to review all of the lonely pages in next two days.

Why this cleanup is needed? Wiki has been hit with a bunch of useless articles and images (possibly categories and templates) and this is attempt to improve the quality of our wiki. If you want to help, feel free to check large categories, especially language and add notices if required. Thank you for taking the time to read this. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 19:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Your effort is admirable; even though, I won't spend my time until a proper maintenance will be scheduled (to be honest, I haven't much time lately).
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 03:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
First part is finished, 451 articles have been added in the category and will be deleted in cca 10-15 days. Feel free to browse through the category and view if something has been misplaced, although I don't think so as articles are lonely, citizens dead without any major achievements. After removal I will again start second phase, with even deeper looking at the lonely, stub and non-formatted articles. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 13:45, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

User cleanup

I suggested few weeks ago to Gucio to clean up some of the inactive users. Honestly, I don't see the point in having users inactive for months (years) without any contribution, or contributing by only creating their own page for a citizen with no real achievements. Following the deletion policy, I add to this pages warning so in next few days they will be with no contributions... I started to create a list of that users in my reminders sandbox. I would really like to knew your opinion, should we merge this users if they are inactive for more than 12 months if they are without any contributions? --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 13:45, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, at the moment Gucio is not able to 'delete' users.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 16:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
As far as I recall I should be able to remove users now. Really, regardless of what the opinion is such action would require administrative permission, which I do doubt you would get. --"Gucio «Talk»" 22:44, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Gucio, I realize that owners of eRepublik want to have the number of active players as high as possible because than they can say we have 100000 people playing the game (no matter if 90000 are dead), but what do they gain to have 10000 editors, while 9750 are inactive? Can you ad least ask the bosses can we give some permission to delete any (or all) of the following groups:
  • Registered over a year and without ANY wiki contributions
  • Registered over a year and without ANY wiki contributions, citizen dead/impossible to find
  • Registered over two years, only wiki contributions are editing his/her user page
  • Registered over two years, only wiki contributions are editing his/her user page, citizen dead/impossible to find
  • Banned ingame without ANY wiki contributions
  • Banned ingame, only wiki contributions are editing his/her user page

I would help you with the creation of the lists (which will take forever as there is 10000+ editors) so we can sort this shit out. Thank you in advance for asking. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 08:01, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Notability

I would again emphasis that notability policy should be written. It was announced several times in the past (since 2010) but never completed. Bogi started to make a proposal, but as many before him, he stopped - User:Bogohulja/Sandbox/Notability. Feel free to use this for adding things to it, or copy it to your own sandbox to make your own proposal. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 13:45, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand this?!
If that becomes policy of this Wiki we'll have to delete over 75% of current citizen pages. That is in adition and does not include thousand pages or so already marked for deletion as Lonely pages.
Unless citizen was "President of country or has served as one of the only 2 recognized Ministers (MoDs, MoFA) than they should not have their own page" - that would include most of the current citizen pages on this Wiki.
Just about all of the newspaper pages will have to be deleted as "Having many subscribers or MM medals should not be enough criteria for citizen or newspaper being added to the wiki"--Sre8renica (talk) 00:25, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
As I said, we have to create some guidelines... And sooner better than later. This upper is only a link to Bogi's idea, I didn't said that this is final, obviously people who are here longer should make suggestions what should be in notability policy. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 04:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
As usually, I did not explain myself well enough.
Some of us are already using rules? to mark for deletion pages that are not good enough.... and there is more to come
As a suggestion... why not add "rules" that we are using at the moment - as a starting point. Than add other "rules" that Andy will use to delete pages in 2nd (3rd, 4th... etc round) ;-P
eg.:
  • lonely pages - this is supposed to be an encyclopedia of eRepublik, so every page needs to be linked to. No point having a pages "hidden" that no one can find. So, have them linked or destroy...
  • delete citizens who have received a Permanent Ban AND had no major achievements unless ban was "unique"
  • should not delete "dead" citizens, just because they have died. But, if page is not up to Wiki standard AND no one bothered to improve it in X+months/years than it should go.
This is more of a type/style of guidelines that (in my opinion) should be used. (Deleting citizen page Solely because there is no President or major Minister achievement is, in my opinion, a wrong way to go --Sre8renica (talk) 23:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I actually agree with Srebrenica. Guess it's more important what is article like. If someone put effort info making it pretty and meaningful, let it be. --Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 19:49, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi

Hi.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 14:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Hej back to you. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 00:15, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Quit the spam :3 --"Gucio «Talk»" 20:47, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Go away and STOP TO DO YOU-KNOW-WHAT IN SERVERS ROOM! D:<
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 00:24, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome message

I would like to change the last sentence to the welcome message into something like: And remember, if you ever need any assistance, check out the sidebar on the left for help with Editing, Policies, or Templates and feel free to simply say hello, or ask any question in the Bar, which you should visit every time you log on to the wiki to check are there any discussions.

Again, welcome and have fun!


The full message can be viewed here. What do you think? --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 00:15, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

So that's a MediaWiki page too! It's ok for me.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 01:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Fine with me! :)) Maybe with the last part "which you should visit every time you log on to the wiki to check are there any discussions." I'd change to less obligatory tone, something like "which is useful to visit every time you log on to the wiki to check are there any discussions." --"Gucio «Talk»" 20:46, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

heads up

dunno if anybody cares, but yesterday X added a new bureaucrat (talk about communication skills), Mesther --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 15:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 15:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the info G, I noticed that we have a new person responsible for us, and I hope that we will have some introduction from the new person. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 12:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry about the lack of communication. X has unfortunately left eRep and is no longer responsible for the wiki. Mesther is the new person responsible and hopefully helping us with wiki stuff. --"Gucio «Talk»" 22:41, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I KNEW 'TWAS ALL OF UR FAULT, GUCIO! D:<
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 02:24, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, lack of communication is the problem for the last couple of years. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 12:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Need Template:Help/한글

While translating eRepublik Help things, I think 'Help' need translate to find pages in Korean. User:Kdc5523/sandbox --A-ha! The fun has been DOUBLED! 03:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Admin removal: Yamisuke

Hello. Our admin, Yamisuke, is abusing his admin privileges, and that's why I propose his rights removal. I'm an active editor, for more than a year now each month among the top 7 most active users. I was especially active this spring, making 1800 edits in a month during that period. I mostly stopped my activity because of this admin, who used his rights to "win an argument". Actually, there was no argument, he "doesn't give a fuck about my arguments", because he's an admin. You can see what I'm talking about here. I tried to explain why I consider that my edit was right, be the answer was: I don't give a fuck of your arguments. He also locked pages I edited, so I can't edit them anymore, without even trying to explain anything.

Now again, he reverted my edits [1], [2], because he decided that income tax should be kept in this table "for legacy reasons", even if it doesn't exist in the game. It was his own decision; he didn't like me doing something that was not as he decided, so he reverted the edits and locked templates, again.

Now, this is clearly abusing his position, and it is wrong to allow him to do so. Admins should be neutral and trying to solve disputes, not make any further problems. Or maybe it's better to lock entire wiki, so nobody can do anything against this admin's wishes. --Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 20:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

There is no policy about admin removal, so there's no point in proposing one.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 21:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
You should read more carefully mate... Behavior policy applies for ALL editors, regardless on his/her position in the wiki. Yes, we had never removed an admin as all of us tried to be extremely professional and unbiased although it sometimes hard. Really hard. Honestly I completely understand Bogi, in last 6 months while I am trying to fix as much shit as it is possible, there are only few, and I mean FEW editors that are trying to assist in this cleanup. Unfortunately, as I have to spend a lot of time checking recent changes, I have noticed reduction of editing from the main editors in last few months and the reason was you Yamisuke. People are trying to make changes and your goal is to lock everything... So what is the point of having editors? So someone can ask us to do it? And you are making decisions for yourself with no reason at all?????? Well, I don't need more tasks as I don't have the time do to 20 % of the current tasks that I am trying to do. So for the first time, and I really hope for the last time, I vote in favor to remove you as an admin as this wiki cannot afford losing editors anymore.
+1 for removing Yamisuke. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 21:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
In the first place, you're wasting your time: there is no point into cleaning wiki without proper instruments, and you all know very well what I'm actually achieving about it.
Skilled editors have no wish to spend their effort here because at the current state wiki sucks, your attempt to turn inactivity on me is outrageous.
Anyway, please keep your boyfriends activity out and apart from any other editor ones, thanks.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 05:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)