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Need Template:Help/한글

While translating eRepublik Help things, I think 'Help' need translate to find pages in Korean. User:Kdc5523/sandbox --A-ha! The fun has been DOUBLED! 03:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Admin removal: Yamisuke

Hello. Our admin, Yamisuke, is abusing his admin privileges, and that's why I propose his rights removal. I'm an active editor, for more than a year now each month among the top 7 most active users. I was especially active this spring, making 1800 edits in a month during that period. I mostly stopped my activity because of this admin, who used his rights to "win an argument". Actually, there was no argument, he "doesn't give a fuck about my arguments", because he's an admin. You can see what I'm talking about here. I tried to explain why I consider that my edit was right, be the answer was: I don't give a fuck of your arguments. He also locked pages I edited, so I can't edit them anymore, without even trying to explain anything.

Now again, he reverted my edits [1], [2], because he decided that income tax should be kept in this table "for legacy reasons", even if it doesn't exist in the game. It was his own decision; he didn't like me doing something that was not as he decided, so he reverted the edits and locked templates, again.

Now, this is clearly abusing his position, and it is wrong to allow him to do so. Admins should be neutral and trying to solve disputes, not make any further problems. Or maybe it's better to lock entire wiki, so nobody can do anything against this admin's wishes. --Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 20:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

There is no policy about admin removal, so there's no point in proposing one.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 21:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
You should read more carefully mate... Behavior policy applies for ALL editors, regardless on his/her position in the wiki. Yes, we had never removed an admin as all of us tried to be extremely professional and unbiased although it sometimes hard. Really hard. Honestly I completely understand Bogi, in last 6 months while I am trying to fix as much shit as it is possible, there are only few, and I mean FEW editors that are trying to assist in this cleanup. Unfortunately, as I have to spend a lot of time checking recent changes, I have noticed reduction of editing from the main editors in last few months and the reason was you Yamisuke. People are trying to make changes and your goal is to lock everything... So what is the point of having editors? So someone can ask us to do it? And you are making decisions for yourself with no reason at all?????? Well, I don't need more tasks as I don't have the time do to 20 % of the current tasks that I am trying to do. So for the first time, and I really hope for the last time, I vote in favor to remove you as an admin as this wiki cannot afford losing editors anymore.
+1 for removing Yamisuke. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 21:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
In the first place, you're wasting your time: there is no point into cleaning wiki without proper instruments, and you all know very well what I'm actually achieving about it.
Skilled editors have no wish to spend their effort here because at the current state wiki sucks, your attempt to turn inactivity on me is outrageous.
Anyway, please keep your boyfriends activity out and apart from any other editor ones, thanks.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 05:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking in writing arguments, but he told you everything... Close the wiki, burn everything and ban Bogi, Srebrenica and me from the wiki and game... Why to try to sort shit out, when you don't have to do anything? I am really surprised that our dear king Suke found some time to do actual editing. Thank you my lord for being so helpful... --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Do you need assistance? Then ask me! ;)) 10:16, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
'Thank you my lord for being so helpful...'
Hi, you're welcome.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 00:11, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I think we could use some mediations, as I have no clue what exactly is happening here, except for conflict within my own goddamn administration --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 12:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Wise big G is wise.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 12:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Either way, saying "I don't give a fuck of your arguments." as an administrator is kind of out of order? Shall have a look at it next week. --"Gucio «Talk»" 22:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Clean ur handz and check mah Talk page.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 23:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
+1 Either way, saying "I don't give a f**k of your arguments." as an administrator is kind of out of order? --Sre8renica (talk) 05:46, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Minor rules: categories place, red links and redirects

Hello. I'd like us to make some general rules regarding these things, so all the articles are the same.

Categores place

I have noticed that some pages have categories listed on the top of the page, and some on the bottom. I always place them on bottom, because it doesn't really makes sense to make to have categories placed like this: Category:Presidents of X, Category:People of X, Category:Citizens, Category:People of Y. It kind of makes more sense to have it like this: first general category: Citizens, then another auto-category: People of Y (country of the current cs), then People of X (original/rl cs), and finally Presidents of X.

What Wikipedia says about this:

 Category tags should be placed at the bottom of the article, after the appendices and before the inter-wiki language links (see Wikipedia:Layout). This ensures that when newcomers press "edit", they are immediately presented with the main article text, rather than the more esoteric category tags. It also ensures that the category tags are in a consistent place so they are easy to find when an editor is updating the categorization of a bunch of articles. 
+1 I always placed them at the very bottom of the page too.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 12:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Red links

There are red links made by some templates, and I don't think it's really necessary to remove them all. If you can replace it with {{eLink}}, it's fine, but if you can't, no reason to remove data just so there's no more red link there. If red links are forbidden on this wiki, so be it. But leaving them there will help if someone writes the article some day to have better linking to other articles. It also might attract a new editor to come and write a new article. And what is gained by simply removing it? Nothing imho.

Wikipedia:

 One study conducted in 2008 showed that red links helped Wikipedia grow. 
-1 We have an informal policy about red links, so I'd not overuse them.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 12:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
-1 "If a link is red, rethink it. Check to see if the link adds anything to the article or if it is misspelled" is a current help tip for red links, with which I totally agree.
Also waiting for someone to write articles to get rid of a RED links is a pipe-dream. We can't even keep up with the important edits.
There are currently OVER 139000 Wanted pages on this wiki (that is ONE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE THOUSAND)- pages that red links point to. Many of this pages have been created by recent deletion/restructuring of Flags, avatars etc.., others are ::automatically created by usage of Language templates... and others are just simply added by some brilliant editor eg.: ALL (Current membership hails from Austria, Bolivia, Canada, Chile, India, Japan, ::South Africa, and the United States). <--- This is was the actual Red link on this wiki... just one of the many gems.--Sre8renica (talk) 14:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I removed the red link ad added some colour.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 15:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
We're having a misunderstanding here. I was referring to red links created by templates. I don't think this is a good idea: http://prntscr.com/4pkv3v . I think that it's better to either leave it red or replace with {{eLink}}. It is still an info, no matter if red. And this: http://prntscr.com/4pkw8o , don't know, keep it red or maybe remove automated linking, not really sure about it. --Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 16:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
I can remove those red link generators but some pages will break.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 16:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Redirects

When someone changes nick, the redirect is deleted. Keep in mind that redirects are cheap, so they don't need to be removed. Someone writing an article and wanting to link an old nick might not know the new nick. Yes, they can search, but let's be honest, most players won't bother to do any additional work. So I say, keep old nicks redirects. Actually, a more thorough guidelines about when to have and not to have redirect could be made.

Wikipedia:

 Redirects are cheap. Redirects take up minimal disk space and use very little bandwidth. Thus, it doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. 

--Icon-Montenegro.png Bogi | Talk 09:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

+1 This one is already the unofficial policy for nickname change: we move citizen pages from old nickname to new one (to match the wiki link in eRepublik profile) by keeping the redirect.
--Yamisuke «WANNA FIGHT?!» 12:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)