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.svg format fail

e.g. File:Undefined.svg Someone? - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 12:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Since we can all just go to the file, I've turned your file code into a file link. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 21:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
What? --Belea2008 21:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
The wiki isn't processing .svg files correctly, have a look at the example File:Undefined.svg.
I think some admin tried to implement ImageMagick and failed. But look at other files: File:Icon-Czech Republic.svg, File:Flag-Czech Republic1.svg. They look fine. Maybe this particular .svg is messed up or sth? --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 15:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Rewards

Are we still goint to give rewards to editors? If yes, I made the proposal for April. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 12:19, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

For some strange reason , this was earlier this day in my head , too. I was going to discuss it with QJ, but it seems you've already put it in a public discussion. -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 15:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

What happened to March 2010? Also, let me know when the final lists are ready, so I can implement the rewards for January - April 2010. Thanks in advance!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Belea2008 (talkcontribs) 23:17, 2 May 2010
I was sick last month so I didn't manage to create the proposal for March, and noone else remembered to do it, as the rewards link was removed from the menu! :( --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 14:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I updated the reward page with links to the citizens/organizations where rewards should be given. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 16:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

eRepublik Wiki Mentor Program

So , I got this small proposal (also a try to revive somehow some old projects) -- Maybe a reference link to be added , in the welcome message from Admin , when an user is approved [the one that is written on the user's talk page]. What do you think?
Also Jameson L. Tai made this cool userbox for me. Whomever wants to participate , can first - add his information/details here and then add the userbox to his userpage , so that he could be found more easily.
New users = New ideas = New articles & etc...-- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 21:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I can help with that. Heck, the majority of the Aussie users are already contacting me on our forums when they run into problems anyway :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 23:10, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Are you deciding to start this project again? = Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 00:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow, you resurrected this from the dead. I cannot manage this program with everything I am doing. It did not catch on because there was not a desire to be mentors from the community. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 12:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Nice.... two "advices": (a) never hesitate to ask for help; (b) don't run yourself into the ground (I noticed you are also very involved in another major Wiki Project). Good luck! --Belea2008 13:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
@Abedecian Well , yeah ... p much. :) | @Q J LINCOLN Okay , I'm taking it then. | @Belea - notes taken :) --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 13:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Timeoin who might these eAussies be who ask for Wiki help on the forums? :P --Icon-Australia.png Sir Terrifico | ♪~Say hello to Terrifico~♪ 11:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


Preventing a edit war

On The Unity Party, how should I go about this? - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 19:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I can protect the page. If parties need to cool down. Added a template. Please discuss on the talk page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Good to see it was sorted out! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Moved from To Do List talk page

Number parameter

Can't we use the number parameter? --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core have a biscuit 10:36, 26 January 2009 (PST)

At this point, there isn't really a need for prioritization so we don't really need numbers. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 10:43, 26 January 2009 (PST)
No, you didn't get the point :) I mean the number= ... | in the template --Mini "Template boy" Bill Italian in the deep core have a biscuit 11:10, 26 January 2009 (PST)
What is the context of this????? from over a 1.5 years ago? --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 22:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I moved it to the Bar in order to be archived. Just ignore it... --Belea2008 11:59, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Alucard

"Formatting Alucard Bloodlust" has been on a list for quite a long now. I was just wondering how much formatting does it need? I have hidden the irc-logs so the page is easier to read, added references and overall done a little fine tuning to the article sections. Is there anything else or can we remove it from the list? --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 18:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

It still needs some fine tuning; for example, it should not have things like this: [a url=http://www.erepublik.com/article-305182.html]corrected Joe Aitken in the comments here[/a]) of the former Switzerland in it. Also, it still contains "article" like grammar errors and wording. I stroked the task as completed. --Belea2008 19:10, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I fixed almost everything. --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 16:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone please check Alucard Bloodlust for any other typos or Wiki formatting errors. After the check is done, just strike the task in EREP:TODO. Thanks in advance! --Belea2008 12:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Uber Editors

I would like to add the following people to the ranks of eRepublik Official Wiki:Uber Editors:

--QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 17:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Sampo555 is tireless, he definetely deserves it +1; Abedecian is engineer, he is not a material for article editor, but he is quite good with templates 0; JLT is translator like me, but can he edit the pages? I believe he can +1; and Daniel... Honestly, I do not know him very well... He is more like spammer to me :D He edited his page more than any other pages together! xD Mahh, as he created and updated a lot of new pages also, I give him +1 --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 17:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd give sampo555 +1 but he has stated that he does not want to be one. But if he decides he does, I'll give him my vote. Jameson L. Tai definitely +1 and Abedecian seems like a competent fellow although he seems to work only on templates (and is doing hell of a good job). I'm not familiar with Daniel Dimow but if you say he's to be Uber Editor then it must be true. They're all cool, I approve.--Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 19:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Both Abedecian and Daniel Dimow are very good at working on the template standardization project. I've work with both of them, and I believe those two can be pretty cool together. I've seen Sampo on IRC, but I haven't collaborated with him on recent projects. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 08:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 to Daniel Dimow and Jameson L. Tai - ive seen their edits. 0 to Sampo555 because he doesnt want to be an Uber Editor. +1 to Abedecian as well, due to his work with the templates. SO +1 to all but Sampo, who said he didnt want to be an Uber Editor --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 08:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Yup. Thanks but no thanks. -1 for sampo555. But I would give +1 for Daniel Dimow, Abecidian and Jameson L. Tai. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 12:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Definitely +1 for DDimow. He's really a wikpedioholic ;-) Abedecian and Jameson - I know them only from templates... A lot of good work, guys. +1. And Sampo555... it's up to him, I guess. But I'd give +1 also. For nice welcoming message :x --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 22:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 for DDimow, +1 for Abedecian, +1 for Jameson L. Tai, and -1 to Sampo555 as he stated he doesn't want to be Uber Editor. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 14:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Id like to also nominate Mr. Awesome either now, or next month, or whenever the next round of nominations takes place. How do I go about nominating him? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, it took me so long, new uber editors have crowned. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 01:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I added them to the access list of #wiki:
  • 5 DDimow
  • Abedecian
  • JamesonLTai
--Belea2008 09:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI

this --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 15:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

And this is interesting also, as well as last two new articles by him... :/ --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 21:24, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Whats wrong with that? It seems "neutral" enough to me (jokes) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 01:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Impeachment question

Imagine a country with two people running for presidency. What happens when after elections both of them are impeached. Who will be a president then?

ANSWER: The country will not have a president anymore. --Belea2008 14:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Has there even been an example of this, Belea? (I ask for the sake of curiosity) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 10:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Shhhhhh.... don't ask about secret stuff! --Belea2008 21:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Errr ... What?? *Very puzzled face* --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 02:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

A spelling mistake thats on almost every page.

I've thought it was odd for some time now, but I only just checked then to confirm my suspicions that the word is indeed spelt incorrectly.

On the template for Parties, Citizens (in the political positions section), |succeeded= is the formula for saying who succceded them in that position, or the party that it became when it changed names. When you save changes, it comes up as succeded by. Can one of the SysOps please correct the minor typo? Thanks :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 08:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Changed for Citizen and will be changed when my implmentation of Party is implemented. Abedecian
Thanks Abedecian for that. (Oh, and i Signed your comment for you, I think you accidentally forgot.) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 10:43, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Unified flag template

A while ago, I created Template:Flag and integrates all of the flag templates. I think that would be a good place to start for the last item on the to-do list. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey! You're still alive! :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 08:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
See this: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Template_talk:Flag --Belea2008 09:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

National monuments

Page "completed": http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/National_monuments

Feel free to improve any text/wording on the page as you see fit. --Belea2008 11:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Portal/Project for small-time editors

I imagine that not all editors on the wiki are looking to update templates or build projects and portals and whatnot. So I propose a portal (Portal:Editing) for editors that really just want to edit, like just to help out a bit, not anything complicated. This will be for the editors that care a little more than just about their own pages, but also have no intentions if being big-time uber editors. We can leave it to this group to update country, region, party pages and so on. It will basically be a hub for editors to find out what they can help out with and how to do it, without having to sift through all of the complicated stuff talked about in the bar. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:34, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

+1 Thumbs up on this one o/ -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 20:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

So this portal will have to be updated also? Most portals are created and then die. We all know some pages need regular work. The "To Do List" at the top of the page is supposed to serve as a list of things for people to do if they just want to edit. Heaping projects upon projects upon projects is a waste of time. Lets complete what we are trying to do now - templates. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 00:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Agreed Most MediaWikis have this same problem, which is lack of frequent updating Portals. You have the new editors who believe Portals are only edited by the admins because some of them are protected pages, and then you have experienced editors minding more important projects, then projects are just left to rot... I applaud the effort, but I think a better suited process would be just to coordinate a list of active editors along with their field(s) of expertise. Then once there is a need to activate a bunch of editors to focus on specific topics on QJ's to-do list, more editors could be gathered for the collaboration effort. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 06:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed with Jameson here. Just by scrolling up, you can see that its mainly the same dozen or so people that are talking in here. There are surely more people out there keen to get involved, though. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 06:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I would like to propose an alternative to this idea. Maybe we can do something like Project of the week. Every week we discuss which page should be improved and the chosen one will be posted on the main page, so that every editor who wants to help can improve that page. Rocco Granata 16:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
The to-do list in the bar is of course necessary, but an editor that really only wants to help out by updating or editing pages (with no specific goals) should be able to know where their help is needed. This does not require a tremendous amount of effort on anyone else's part other than to keep a list of pages that need updating and editing. The to-do list in the bar simply says:
Ongoing Projects
  • Special:LonelyPages - These are pages that don't have any pages linking to them.
  • Category:Stub - These are stubs. They need templates, images, text, and/or updating.
  • Category:Formatting - These pages need templates, to be reformatted or wiki-fied.
  • Category:Translations - These pages need to be translated and then put in the proper LangMenu format (Help:Translating Pages).
  • Countries - Country pages ALWAYS need updating.
  • History - History pages always need updates, make sure entries are GLOBALLY relevant and have Category:History
An editor that looks at this probably will not be very happy to see that there help is needed on all of those 1200 or however many articles. We know that country pages need to be updated, and that is done by some on a regular basis. But for those that want to contribute a little more, they need to know where their help is needed. A simple to-do list with "Pages in need of editing" will do. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Again, having a group of editors dedicated to edit certain topics will generate more response when a certain article or group of articles in the field of expertise they signed up for needs updating, revamping, complete redesign, etc. That list does not need its own portal. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 21:23, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
This is something like what I imagined: Template:Things to help out with.

Stock post message.png Editors...

Things to help out with:

  • Indonesia needs updated regions
  • Israel needs better formatting
  • History of Australia needs additional details
  • [1] - portals need updating/maintaining
  • And other stuff that needs doing. Whenever someone notices that a certain article or whatever needs work, put it here so that everyone can see.

Discuss help topics
Update help topics

Thanks for helping the eRepublik wiki!
There could be a general version, and perhaps versions for each country project. Editors can place the template on their help page so they can go there to see what others need help with, and update the topics as needed. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 22:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
The only problem I see with this, Mr. Awesome, is that several countries do not have many editors (if any), much less an organised Country Project. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 03:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I archived the current tasks (because all of them are for SysOps/Uber Editors/Very Active Contributors) and repopulated that page with "simpler tasks": each task requires to do only one action on only one page. Feel free to add more "simple tasks" to that page! After the list gets bigger, I'll go to "phase 2": contacting random contributors with low or no activity and ask them for their help regarding that list. --Belea2008 22:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Very good. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 01:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit war?

http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Community_communication&action=history --Belea2008 09:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean the edits from this edit to this edit, back in February? If not, I fail to see it. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know the official eSwiss channel is #eSwitzerland @rizon and forums http://www.ehelvetia.ch/. The other irc/forums were channels of PTO:ers. C. M. Burns is one of PTO:ers. Eleriel is IRL swiss and current president, so I think this is the real channel/forum. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 15:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with that assessment. As far as I can tell, it is, indeed, the official site. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 15:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I have left messages on the talk pages of the four people involved, and politely asked them to use the talk page instead. Two of the people have been involved in this exact same dispute in the past (back in February). --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 15:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion

I would like to question the community on deleting articles that refer to non ingame content, because as far as I ama aware, as long as it is acknowledged to be fiction and encyclopaedic it was okay? Mainly refers to Member of Parliament - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 22:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The position is called "Congress Member" in the game. That is what the position is. If they are called senators or members of parliament or congressman or congresswoman or representative or whatever, it doesn't matter, the link should go to the Congress Member. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 23:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Im going to get proactive here. I created a page for Senator, after talking to Belea on IRC about it. It does link back to congress member though, and lists it as being a non-game element used in Australia to describe members of congress. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 00:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I think as long as its not lonely, links to real game content and abides by the fiction policy, I think its okay. Oh and QJ, Congressman, Senator, Member of Parliament does exist, as the game is a encyclopaedia and contains historical and cultural information. - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 01:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I think this is a can of worms...and can only lead to confusion, but whatever you want. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, The Senator page mentions that it is the Australian name for Congress Member, and mentions that it is due to RL Australian politics. I dont think there is any confusion there. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 04:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
How many of these "denominations" for Congress Member do we have? What is their added value? What am I missing...?!? --Belea2008 11:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Also, this: "I think this is a can of worms...and can only lead to confusion, but whatever you want.". --Belea2008 11:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Also, what stops me for creating the page "Great Wahooka" as a "denomination" for Congress Member? It is a very used term in South Africa... --Belea2008 11:59, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
As I said earlier though, Senator is used to describe the Real Life Political body in Australia, as seen here: Australian Senate. Furthermore, 25 of the 60 countries in eRepublik have a Senate. I do not see the problem in having a page about this, providing that the page itself mentions that it is not the official eRepublik term, and that the official term is congress. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 13:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
My point...Who cares what it is in RL? This is eRepublik the game has presidents and congress members. Citizens run for congress not senate. But I think we will never agree on this. I also totally disagree with the eUKs insistence on a House of Commons. But whatever, if people want it, people want it. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
My point is this: Look at the people running for Congress of Australia, and their presentations. The majority of them say "elect <name> for senate in May", not "elect <name> for CONGRESS in May". Thats the point im making. If most of the members of "congress" in that region are constantly calling it that term, there is evidence that most of the community in that country are referring to it that way. If the UK candidates consistantly call it House of Commons, then there is evidence that people want that term, too. (Ultimately though, thats just my opinion. If others consider it to be worthless, then I guess I can live with that) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 04:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Universal Colour Scheme (Voting Notice)

To all those who are interested, there is a Community vote happening here regarding whether or not a universal colour (or color, if you prefer) scheme is to be implemented. All Wiki Editors are encouraged to vote upon this proposal and voice their opinions on this proposal. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I think this is resolved and the matter closed. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 12:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. It wasnt as the time I posted this, though. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 12:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding portals

I see that this portal is proposed for deletion: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Portal:PEACE - I propose that portal that are no longer updated to be moved to their "creator" userspace and the top three contributors to that portal to be notified by the move. --Belea2008 21:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

We have a lot of portals in progress that were never finalized. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 12:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding WikiProjects

I received confirmation that this project is no longer maintained: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/eRepublik:WikiProject_Politics - I propose that WikiProjects which are no longer "active" to be moved to their "creator" userspace and the top three contributors to that project to be notified by the move.

Yeah, this portal was made a while ago, under my leadership I think. But it is ancient history and useless now. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 22:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Pretty much all wiki projects fall apart. People spend a lot of time setting them up and then there is some immediate work and then it fizzles.... --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 22:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
If all of them fall apart, then let's "forbid" them and people who wish to organize themselves to use a "Debate Bar" or userspace or whatever.... What do you think? --Belea2008 22:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Well actually, the United kingdom one is really strong as we have a elected body who maintains it - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 01:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Next time you have some free time, can you tell me how you got that set up? I'd be interested in setting that up with the Australian Wiki Project --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 02:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
If you want that set up, let me know I'll do it. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 06:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Devils advocate....I guess my question is: Does an elaborate wikiproject page help you organize? or is it more fluff than function? I mean, would a page like the bar be more helpful than a page with a lot of sections and colors etc? You don't need to justify wiki projects to me. It is just I would rather see people actually editing rather than creating pretty pages to organize. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 12:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Is this enough editing for you, QJ? I do agree with your point though - some projects are more trouble than they are worth. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 12:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
QJ is absolutely right. I am not gonna keep wasting time with projects and portals and what not. From now on, I am going to focus on important things, like actual editing. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles beginning with "The"

An article should not begin with the word "The" because it makes linking to the article more difficult, and I think it's grammatically incorrect. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 20:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

eRepublik Official Wiki:Naming_policy#Other_Pages The only things that should begin with "The" are proper names "The Book of Dio" or The Glory_and_Fall_of_Empires. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:25, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
What about The Great Southern War? -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 21:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
The policy should follow that articles only be used when they are explicitly stated as a part of the title of a work; for instance The Good, the Bad and the Ugly has "The" in its given title. Events and things that are not published with a "the" in the beginning should be left without the article, like the Great Southern War. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 23:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
So can I go back and change it to the Australia-Argentina War again? (Aeros insisted that "everone was calling it The Great Southern War") --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 02:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Did anybody apart from Aeros call it The Great Southern War? --Icon-Australia.png Sir Terrifico | ♪~Say hello to Terrifico~♪ 04:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Not really. I had them separated into individual conflicts, i.e. Australia-Argentina War, and Brazil-Australia War. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 04:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Citizen Template addition: Newspaper

FYI: Discussion and voting at Template_talk:Citizen#Newspaper. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 07:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Citizen Template addition: New category including date

Another addition suggestion: how about making a dummy category for birth and death dates. Something like [[Category:Citizens born on {{#time: d F Y | {{{birth_date|}}} }}]] will add each citizen to a certain category based on their birth date (assuming the birth date is entered correctly, or account for errors too). With information on births and deaths, we can add some cool sections to the history pages (or at least just for the important people). I guess this could also be done perhaps for wars or battles with their date parameters so we could have some more complete event sections. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 02:41, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Haha, don't let QJ see this, she hates categories :P - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 04:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
This will create just TOO MUCH categories. I think it should sth like born in month, or even year. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 14:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Im doing my best, Mr. Awesome. I added about 5 more wars today :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
An interesting idea, why not. But months/years are better. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 14:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I like Caroline's idea better. There would not be enough people to warrant individual dates. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 15:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
The categories would only be temporary: on the template only as long as we need to update the history pages. Then we would delete the categories. And the category page would never need to be created at all. Look at this possibility. When we are ready to update the history pages, we would add [[Category: Citizens born on {#time: d F Y|{{{birth|}}} }}]] to the citizen template, cycle through all the dates, and add the citizens to the history pages under a "Births" section. Then, of course, we could do the same procedure with death, battles, wars, etc. that have templates with date parameters. I think that would be rather easy to do. But I would really want done is to add events to history pages in some cleverly mechanical way. Perhaps a template could be made (Template:EventDate) that takes a date as a parameter. This template can be added to major event pages just once to indicate the date of whatever happened. Then the template could add these pages to dummy categories for history updating. It seems like a big task, but it can actually be quite simply done. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 15:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Well also, the problem is that the history pages were stupidly split up into unique dates, instead of having each date have a page for all years. There should be 366 history pages. If we did that, then History wouldn't have so many red links and we could actually fill up the pages with information. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 15:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I am absolutely against this. This could be 900 categories... 1000 categories... ridonculous! What is the point of these categories anyway? Categories are supposed to be HELPFUL in finding related articles. What is special about people being "born" in one year or another. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
True that we don't want a thousand more categories, and perhaps birth dates are unnecessary, but like I said, the categories would only be temporary: just until we update the history pages. I was actually pondering a way where we would only need one category, but it wouldn't be the best way. What IS necessary ("necessary" is the word of the day) is that we have better history pages. *Preparing to be shot down* We need to have history pages that are not subpages of History and they need to be consolidated into days of the year instead of having each date separate. *Awaiting the wrath of the sysops* That is my problem with the history pages. Then there's the problem with the content. There needs to be a better way of updating those pages, and the pages need to be formatted in the same way. My idea is a major operation, which involves dummy, temporary categories and simple templates, similarly detailed above. This operation includes the following:
  • TEMPORARILY change any event templates that have date parameters so that they are added to a TEMPORARY category (Events occurring on May 16) - an easy step
  • Create a template that can be added to event pages (from the past and for future articles) that has the events date/multiple dates as a parameter so the page can be added to a category - easy to make template, a bit more time for adding to event pages
  • Implement the pages at the same synchronized time, ready for our editors to sift through the categories and add stuff to history pages
  • Sift and add, sift and add
  • Remove the category statements from the templates, therefore getting rid of the dummy categories
  • Admire the new thoroughly updated history pages
-- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 22:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Categories for born in a year are good anyway. (it will be only 4 categories) --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 15:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Mr Awesome, so are you suggesting something like the way Wikipedia does it's history pages? The structure of the history pages are based on the calendar from Wikimedia. I am not fully understanding what you mean to do. Are you saying that every thing on a history page needs an "Event page?" We made an attempt at a history page template. It never caught on. The history pages are being done manually and that is the biggest issue. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 16:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I think a date system like the one Wikipedia has is ideal. In fact, we should model our own history pages like there's. But I am adamant that we should not make date pages as subpages of History - move History/16 May 2008, History/16 May 2009, and History/16 May 2010 collectively to May 16 (the Americanized way of writing the date). That just makes it more of a pain to link to them, hence less activity in updating them. Just look at their date pages. Very systematically broken down: events, births, deaths, holidays; current month calendar; a template at the bottom with all of the dates. All of that stuff is what our date pages should be like. Now on the content issue, we just need to brainstorm ideas to make the date pages continually updated. There is no automatic solution, which is what I was trying to create (and which probably won't work very well). The two necessary phases are updating for past events and keeping editors aware so they can add future events. But let's bring that discussion to the section I made a little further down. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


Templates stuff

Moved to the debate section - here. -- Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 21:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


Happy Template:Day|893 of the New World!

Dear All,

Yes, I'm still here (sort of). For some time the issue of dates in eRepublik has been bothering me. Therefore I put together this Template, currently at User:Martin23230/Sandbox/Day.

What I am hoping is that you can put in {{Day|666}} (as an example) and it would come out with: 16 September 2009 (Day 666) . I think this could be very useful on the wiki and for eRepublik reference.

However, the page uses the #switch: command 1137 times (the highest you can go at the moment, Day 1137, is 31 December 2010). Therefore the page is rather large, 51 kilobytes to be exact, which would make it the 9th largest page on the wiki. Do you think this would be a problem, and if so would there be any other way of doing this template?

Thank you, --Martin23230 11:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

There must be a better way to do that. I guess you could play with #date and #expr --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 11:59, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
What MiniBill suggested SHOULD work. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 12:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
If you are going to continue with the switch, you need to do it so the most recent is first, otherwise you are going to have a increasingly taxing process on the server - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 20:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the best way to do this is with timestamps. If we know the timestamp of day 0 and convert the entered date to a timestamp, then the difference will give us the day number. I just don't know how to convert dates to timestamps (with a template). I also don't know what #date or #expr statements do. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 00:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Done, dearies: User:Squirrel/Sandbox/Day - User:Squirrel/Sandbox/Day. Quickly testing seems to be accurate too. --Icon-Finland.png Squirrel TC 11:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Easy to make customizable too, just replace the d F Y with {{{2|d F Y}}} etc. --Icon-Finland.png Squirrel TC 11:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Achievement templates

See here. I disagree with this. The reason given "this template contains in game statistical data. Citizen pages, and all Wiki articles in general should contain encyclopedic information/history/writing/etc., not to bring statistical information from the game without putting that information in a encyclopedic context" may be true, but it doesn't mean these templates couldn't be used. I know we dumped the idea of skill templates with the same reason, but achievements don't change that often and in my opinion they provide more information than just the fact that the citizen has got five hard worker medals, it shows how committed one is to play the game. Ok, that might be a little far fetched but some people have actually described the events and conditions in which they got their medals, does that qualify as "putting them in a encyclopedic context"? It would also be a huge bother to delete all these from the million pages they've been used, or do we finally have a working bot? Bottom line is, in my opinion they are useful and more than just statistics. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 11:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you Kuhaa, but if (when) wiki becames a part of eRepublik, than this templates will have no sense... But until this happens, I would leave this templates alive. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 12:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Where have plans like that been announced? Or do you refer to the "Embedded wiki" thing in one of the Deabte pages? That changes things but I'd still like to leave the templates be until Wiki and eRepublik have been merged. What about the bot? Do we still not have one?--Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 13:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
<ot>Well, it looks like MassEditRegex got implemented, but I think pywikipediabot would be great (I'm almost ready of running it, but must test it first somewhere). </ot> I'm -1 on deleting templates.--Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 13:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
-1 to removing this to me, too. (somehow I missed this one) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 12:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Change to ref template?

I think the ref template should reference things by making a link to the reference section at the bottom of the page. Having reference superscripts that are phrases just break up the text and make it look awful. I think the superscript should just be a number that corresponds to the reference section where we can have full URLs and descriptions. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 02:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

You can do that already, Mr. Awesome. See Jameson L. Tai's page. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 04:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
What Mr. Awesome is saying, and I completely agree with him on this... is why are we using the ref template instead of the pre-built <ref>/<references /> command? From what I understand, it is now in the new manual of style on this Wiki to ditch the standard mediawiki reference command for {{Ref}}. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 08:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, for one because most of the References are just links to articles, which CAN easily be done using {{Ref}}. I have no objection to using either one, but someone is going to have to show people (such as myself) how to use the other one, if thats what we are going to decide to use. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 09:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
See, here's my take on this. It is essentially the classic battle between citation methods. {{Ref}} uses in-text citation, which makes sense if there are only one or two references in an entire article, as it makes things kind of asinine to make an entire reference section for two references. However, in longer articles, just as major military conflicts, country, party, and certain more involved characters may have multiple places in the article with the same citation, in which case the MediaWiki with ref tags come in really handy. It's not hard to implement either, but it will be harder to create a manual of style to dictate when it would be more appropriate to use one system over another. Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 12:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Having the reference section isn't exactly what my objective was. I really just want to get rid of ugly reference superscripts. Having something with a long reference like this one just looks awful. It would look much better to just have it like this [2] (but also get rid of the outside link thingy at the end, however that's done). In either case, whether using Jameson's method or the ref template, the superscript number is the cleanest way to have it. I tested the <ref> tags and have the Reflist template crudely copied from wikipedia and it seems to work fine. I will work on Western Australia Incident and its plethera of references and see if I can't fine tune them. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Answer is much plainer and simpler. When the wiki begun <ref didnt work, so I created {{ref}} --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 19:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Here is my sandbox with Western Australia Incident after some reference retuning. I think it looks a lot neater now, with the exception of all of those article links, which I don't think are all necessary to have on the page. But if you want to use the page, we can clean that section up. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 20:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I like making references look nice, so if you come across an article that has some poorly constructed references, then tell me. I don't mean articles that need references. Maybe a template like this one can be placed on those pages to call my attention. {{User:Mr. Awesome/Sandbox/UglyRefs}} -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 22:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Anti-cheating project

List of pages to be edited when anti-cheating project gets implemented:

If something is missing, feel free to add it to the list. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 12:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I have a few more:

Just off the top of my head we will need to update those. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 12:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

A few more:

All of those should be updated to include that a person who invites the friend will recieve 10% of their future rewards. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 12:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyways, it's going to be a LOT of editing. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo (his discussion) 12:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
You know... this whole pyramid scheme idea is starting to look like a new ad campaign for eRepublik:
  • Introducing eRepublik Families! You may now choose how you are born!
  • By choosing to use a referral link, you get to have a single parent who inherits a part of your future success and financial gains
  • By choosing to just sign up you get to be a random bastard child no one cares about.
  • Good Luck from the eRepublik Banhammers!
--Icon-Australia.png - Jameson L. Tai talk/Deputy Marshal of the eAustralian DropBears 12:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I want to know what happens to those that already started? Is it retrospective? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timeoin (talkcontribs) 15:49, May 13, 2010
Timeoin, Insider updated. See the P.S. --Belea2008 12:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for that, Belea! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 02:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 Tomorrow, day 912, eRepublik servers will be taken offline for about one hour starting with 01:00 AM (eRepublik time) , in order to implement the anti-cheating project. Thanks for understanding. 
(Admin)
http://forum.erepublik.com/showthread.php/95174-Downtime-day-912

--Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 15:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. Lets get ready folks :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:04, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Updated all Finnish version of pages mentioned in list. --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 13:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Showoff! Um I think all the English pages are created, except Alerts. Didnt want to mess up that page --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Well done! Regarding that "Alerts" page, I'm trying to comprise a full and updated list of them. Until that happen, go for it... and we'll bring that page up to date bit by bit... --Belea2008 16:55, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I have had a go at updating it. Its probably not very good, but - its been attempted. At least theres something there to say that you get Alerts. If anyone stumbles onto the page,they should be able to see that they will recieve an alert! :)--Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 09:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

New invites reward system

  • When a Host invites a Guest in eRepublik, the Host is rewarded with 10% from every Treasure Map he finds or every Gold purchases he makes (Gold offers from Gold offers are not included).
  • Every citizen can track his invites together with his Gold Bonuses on the Gold Bonus page
  • When the Guest reaches a new level, the level should appear on the Host's Gold Bonus Page
  • Every time when a Guest gets an amount of Gold from a Treasure Map or from a Gold acquisition, the following actions will take place:
    • send an alert to the Host to inform him that his Guest used a Treasure Map or bought some Gold. In the alert we announce the amount of Gold he has to collect from the Gold Bonus Page
    • right after the alert has been sent, the amount of Gold that Host needs to collect will be added in the Collect Gold section from the Gold Page and the button should say "Collect $Value Gold"
    • The steps are: Guest finds a Treasure Map with 5 Gold -> alert for Host with 0,5 Gold -> the button from the Gold Shares Page should say "Collect 0,5 Gold" -> after the Host collects his money, those 0,5 Gold will appear on the $_Collected_Gold Column on the specific Guest's row
    • each amount received from every Guest will be available only for 30 days from the moment the Host received the alert for that amount of Gold.
    • the Guest will collect his Gold by pressing the Collect Gold Button
  • This rules apply for all the Host's Guests that did not reach level 6 until the moment these changes are implemented!
  • Also, the changes do not apply for all the invited people until now but only from now on.

--Belea2008 08:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

A question, just to clarify (because it will probably come up sooner or later!) - what happens if a person was invited, and was, say level 2 or 3 at the time of the implementation? Would they be included in this or not? (Just wondering, because they were invited BEFORE this, but they were also not level 6 yet) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
p.s. this doesnt concern me either, my last invited friend is Level 9 as of Day 912 (just pointing that out so noone thinks that I'm asking this out of self-interest :D) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE: Anyone receives the 10% for the citizen invited by him/her (no matter the time that person was invited). --Belea2008 15:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Monetary Market Gold Transactions

When a citizen enters eRepublik, he cannot sell Gold until he reaches level 12.

  • These are the only available features for a citizen younger than level 12:
    • buy all the existing local currencies but only in exchange for another currency (so no Gold involved)
    • buy Gold in exchange of all the existing local currencies
    • sell all the existing local currencies but only in exchange of another currency (no Gold involved)
  • these limitations are available until the moment the citizen reaches level 12 or until the moment the citizen is purchasing Gold packages (the 3, 20, 55 or 140 Gold packages; the Gold offers are not included).

--Belea2008 08:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Citizen money donations

  • Citizens below level 12 can only donate items (the donation of money is disabled)
  • the "Money" tab is removed from the "Donate" page (for citizens < level 12)
  • if a citizen purchases GOLD, the donate money option becomes active, regardless of the level of the citizen

--Belea2008 08:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the English pages for this section are now updated. (Donate and Donations list) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 09:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Gut. :D --Belea2008 16:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Elections

Currently elections in eRepublik end at 00:00 (eRepublik time) and immediately the final results are announced.

The new elections mechanism:

  • at 00:00 (eRepublik time) the actual voting process ends for every type of elections (on 6th, 16th and 26th)
  • we will have the final election results at 06:00 (eRepublik time) instead of having them shortly after 00:00 (eRepublik time)
  • during the 6 hours delay display on the page with results (as it is now), but change the page name from “Final results” to “Intermediate results”
  • the Intermediate Results page will be in real-time
  • during the 6 hours delay the old Presidents/Congress members/Party presidents keep their seats
  • only at 06:00 send alerts and rewards to the new winners; change the text to “Official results”

--Belea2008 08:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Other changes

The "Unlock features" section of the site will not exist anymore (it cost 15 Gold) - thus everyone will have to gain EP in order to have access to different features. --Belea2008 09:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

The "Career page" has been completely removed. From the menu also. Thus all the ImageMaps of the Menu must be updated. I suggest leaving the Career path in the Wiki for historical reasons (and because it is very easy to understand what you have to do in order to access those features). --Belea2008 09:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
So Career path should have a note stating that it no longer exists in-game? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 09:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes. --Belea2008 14:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, i have tagged both [[[One:Career path|Career path]] and Unlock features with the Removed Features category. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Gut. :D --Belea2008 16:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
May I ask why there still is Unlock Features in game if it's removed feature? http://www.erepublik.com/en/get-gold/unlock_features --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 04:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Im just going by what Belea said. He said it will not exist anymore, so I removed it. Btw, all references to it on the pages, other than the Main Page and the Unlock Pages have been removed. So no pages (as near as I can make it - there might be a few in some of the other languages that werent linked) - mention Unlocked Features. Career page has been left along for historical reasons (as suggested by Belea). --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 05:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
That page still "exist" due to a bug. It will be fixed at one point on time (as, it will be removed - the page and all references to it).

Also, can someone point me to where the Removed Features category is for other languages? is there one? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 06:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I will create at one point in time a separate namespace - "V1" - and the pages that are no longer valid will be moved in that namespace. Leave it as it is, for now.... --Belea2008 15:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Will do. Im going to guess that "V1" namespace will be used like the "Beta" one is now? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

eRepublik Day Template

I have a semi-functioning template that converts a date into an eRepublik day. I am working on having it work in the opposite direction to turn a day into a date. I have the math right, but #time doesn't convert timestamps into formatted dates. I NEED a template that converts timestamps into dates. {{Day|13 May 2010}} = 905 -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 03:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I am against using the day system on the wiki, I think its very exclusive, and the admins could potentially decide to restart the server at day 1 at any time, like they do on other games. - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 17:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
This template is how we integrate the day numbering system into the wiki. It can be added to the citizen template for birth/death dates for instance, or to the history pages, which only have dates on them and not eRepublik days. History/16 February 2010 for instance: the template used at the bottom could easily add day numbers to the history pages. In fact, I am going to try to make a simple to use template that can be displayed at the bottom of history pages. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Here is a more accessible version of the template that is used at the bottom of history pages. It grabs the date from the page title and displays it and the days before and after it. Those dates might not have pages so there would be red links. I tried to see if a while loop would allow it to cycle through the other date pages to see if they exist, but I don't think our wiki has that extension. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 20:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I personally think that using the 'days' system is not useful, and think that a vote should be made before you decide to implement anything - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 20:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
The day system is a nostalgic way of tracking time for eRepublik. You can see quite simply how long this game has been up, how far we've come in 906 days. I personally like the day system, but am curious to see what everyone else thinks about it.
+1 for the day system -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 20:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 for me as well. I would VERY much like something that could convert dates into Days, or vice versa, short of manually counting through them all. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 04:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 An excellent idea... Finally I will have muuuuuuuuuch easier task to add the eDay on history articles (I have updated the whole 2008 day by day so I could write the correct eDays). So +5 for this idea. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 07:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 For me as well. It will assist with future editing by automating these day conversions. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 07:45, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
What would you say to using a template like this one for history pages? The pluses are that it integrates the day numbering system automatically, finds the date of the history page automatically, and requires no parameters. However, it uses the previous and next dates automatically and displays them as links, even if the page doesn't exist. I wanted to get around that with a while loop that would search for a page that exists, but we don't have the extension. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 13:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Now it can accept parameters for other dates. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 13:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I love this template, great work Mr. Awesome. +1 --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 16:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Is it too late to vote Mr. Awesome as an Uber Editor as well? (Assuming he accepts it, obviously) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Timeoin, but I've been back all of 3 days and all I've done is made templates. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 14:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
So? Thats what needed doing, and you did it. Thats pretty much what Uber Editors do :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 01:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Well thanks. If you want to nominate me, I won't protest, but it really isn't fitting for me. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 02:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I will indeed. I have seen your work in the past (I was walking in your footsteps for the first few months :P) - I've seen your work, and, provided you stay fairly active (i.e. you dont leave the game for 6 months), Im more than happy to nominate you. We need more active people to become Uber Editors --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


Great Southern War

Okay, I got sick of all the problems regarding neutrality on that page, and went back-to-basics.

I have created individual pages created from the actual in-game wars that were fought (i.e. Australia vs Argentina, etc):

These wars are findable in-game by searching through the Wars list in-game. Ill leave the political reasons for these group of wars (and the inevitable neutrality and referencing issues) to the other page.

Any arguments for or against that idea? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 14:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, those pages arent 100% completed yet. I still have to add a few things, such as the commanders, and links to the battles on a few of those pages. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 15:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
+1 - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 16:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
"Great Southern War" sounded better, but if you consider it is more constructive to have 6 different pages; then so be it. (and I have no clue how to update the tasks in EREP:TODO to underline the split) --Belea2008 12:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, Some people will only care about the specific battles - i.e. Citizen A lives in Argentina - only wants to know what happened when Australia and Argentina fought - they could look up Australia-Argentina War and find out. Someone who wants to know the overall scheme of things, and the history and reasons for it - they can go to "Great Southern War" and find out. The separate pages dont go into that much detail of the hows and whys the battles happened - as its described in the main section. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 13:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

How to make History better???

Continuation from other section. Anyone have some ideas on how we can be better at keeping the history pages updated? -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 22:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I think its possible to get API feeds that post the "international events" section onto, say, Twitter accounts. Perhaps its possible to do something of the sort here? (I have no idea if it is or not - if it is, then I think that would be a good way to keep these things updated. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 00:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Well events happen all the time. The first step is writing an article about it, and as far as I know, the important stuff gets an article written about it one way or another. So we need to be able to monitor all articles about events and be able to integrate them efficiently into the history pages. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 00:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Thats true, but there is a lot of stuff that should be mentioned that really isnt. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 01:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

What if we just made the dates on the templates into links. Therefore we would better see dates that are needed. And to avoid any more (maybe pointless) intricacies, how about we just scroll through event pages and start updating history pages (this is what I will be doing in my spare time now). But to keep the history pages continually updated in the future, we need a better system for updating them - a message on event templates reminding people to update history pages, etc. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 02:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure! Any extra reminders to do that sort of thing is surely good. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin| Say G'Day 09:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Bar overflow

It's time to archive again. Also, can we not have the TOC overflow into the talk page's discussion contents? - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 16:19, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

This place is still messy... -_- - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 15:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Anyone can archive the bar by moving completed topics to eRepublik Official Wiki:Bar/May2010. Just copy paste to the May page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 18:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

A little help?

Hello all... I am a long time Wikipedia editor, but a new editor here... is there any templates or Admin departments for for tagging and deleting pages? I have a page that I created that I would like deleted. Thank you. - Adolphus79 20:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

EREP:DEL --Belea2008 20:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you... - Adolphus79 05:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Gold Bonus

I have created a page for this section. It isnt very good (yet), but I have had to save it and go due to Storms where I live in Real Life. If someone wants to edit it before I get back, cool. If not - ill do it when the storm has passed. Til then - Ciao. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, ive updated it again. It still needs some other users to look over it and add/improve to it, but it has most of the info there. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 12:23, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Well done. --Belea2008 15:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
No problem. Glad to have been able to help --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Pages in need of editing help

I have nothing to do. We need a template to be added to pages that need some editing help, and a category (yes QJ, a category).{{User:Mr. Awesome/Sandbox/EditMe}} <big> -- </big><font type=1> [[File:Smiley.jpg|18px]] <font color="blue">'''[[User:Mr. Awesome|Mr. Awesome]] | Talk | </font color="blue"></font type=1> 01:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

We already have that, I think. Its findable by using: {{ugly}} --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Take a look at its discussion page. The category is empty and no one even uses it. We ACTUALLY NEED to have a used template for this type of stuff. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 01:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. Would you rather use the current one or the new one? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 02:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I think mine is a little nicer :P -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 03:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

{{EditMe}} is now usable. PLEASE add this to pages that need some help. This means that bored editors can find something to do. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 03:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Why cant you just use or edit the existing template that is already in use??? That has a category. Revise what we have, don't start something new. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 13:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

{{Formatting}}

I didn't know we had one that was actually in use. But I think mine is little more usable because the need for a page to be edited is not always because of formatting. And I have never even seen that template (probably my own fault though). But whichever one we use, we NEED to make sure that they are used so that editors know what pages need work. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:53, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Then you mean the following one:

{{Ugly}} That page is similar to the one you are talking about. As for where they are found, Help:Common_templates/Templates is where you can find them! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

{{Ugly}} just makes the page look uglier. I think {{EditMe}} looks nicer and is more direct than both {{Ugly}} and {{Formatting}} and I think both of those should be done away with since no one uses them, they do not look nice, and {{EditMe}} has a more direct and user friendly look and objective. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Formatting template is used very often. I am not in favor of changing something the sysops use to patrol pages. The text of the template covers all of the issues that could be a problem on the page. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 14:30, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Go ahead and delete {{EditMe}} then. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 19:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Company pages

Is there ever really a use for them? I think we should discourage the creation of pages for companies and have editors create pages only for organizations that own companies instead. -- Citizen1257373.jpg Mr. Awesome | Talk | 03:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Too many of them end up being sadly neglected. If people want to have impressive links to all their companies, I have no objections to us showing them how to link to a header section of an organization page (i.e. a subpage for the company, instead of a separate page) - but yes, it just seems like too many of these pages are updated. (Plus, its too difficult to mention selling price, wages, etc, etc) (oh, and Mr. Awesome, you have a message on your talk page :D) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Citizen's Gender

When did this disappear? I only just noticed that it wasnt there. Its still included in the Citizen Template document, so why arent they showing up anymore? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be fixed: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Template%3ACitizen%2FSociety&diff=299610&oldid=297413 --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 19:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Whoever changed it made it say male automatically *Pokes the accused*. - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 13:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Same Damn SVG Errors

Alright, this is getting out of hand. SVG support on MediaWiki is practically built in. Why in the hell is the PNG renderer still having problems on the eRep Wiki? It needs to be fixed ASAP. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 06:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

See: Military Decorations, Medals and Insignia of the United States Armed Forces#Military Ranks - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 06:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Guys, I seriously need this SVG thing fixed. SVGs are a big part of wiki tradition when it comes to graphical representations. Note that the ranks that are having these issues have since been commented out by NecrosXiaoban (Per this edit). - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 05:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello?

Hi everyone. Sorry, I was a bit busy with school. I wasn't able to update those pages I have created. Sorry.--• • <font-color="amber">Prince Terence II</font> Icon-Philippines.png <font-color="#000000">Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! • • </font> 07:13, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 07:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Seconded. Welcome back, Prince Terence! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 07:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
I'll be probably updating some pages soon, probably in May 29, as I am having great difficulties in editting pages in my mobile phone. Anyways, thanks for welcoming me back. I miss editting wikis. :D --• • <font-color="amber">Prince Terence II</font> Icon-Philippines.png <font-color="#000000">Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! • • </font> 04:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
You're editing wikis on you're phone? Wow - that IS dedicated! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)



Hi...Sorry that I write right here!

Is there anybody who can explain me how it works to take a picture like the Hospital (see Hospital page) and write a headline and a spreadsheet under the picture? Thank you --Shefe 13:09, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

You do not need to apologise for that, Shefe! This is, after all, what the Bar is for!

The code for the Hospital section is as follows: {{Product| name= Hospital| image= [[File:Icon - Hospital.jpg]]| q1_production_cost= | q1_bonus= Max +10 wellness| q2_production_cost= | q2_bonus= Max +20 wellness| q3_production_cost= | q3_bonus= Max +30 wellness| q4_production_cost= | q4_bonus= Max +40 wellness| q5_production_cost= | q5_bonus= Max +50 wellness| }}

Does that help? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 00:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


Yes thank you :) Now I can go on...its my first edit ;P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shefe (talkcontribs)

Glad that I could help then. May I ask what you need it for? (Maybe I can help further). Oh, and remember to sign you're comments (Minor thing though) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 15:25, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


I want to translate the hospital page into german :) ... just a few pages are german I want to change that :)
--Shefe 16:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC) [Ups, I will sign now everytime :)]

In that case - go for it! If I can help in any further way (with this or any other pages), please leave a comment on my Talk page and I shall help you as soon as I next log on (alas, it is 3 am in real life here). No problem about the signing comments, too. This page gets commented on frequently, and its easy to lost track of who said what otherwise. Still - good luck! Translating pages into other languages is very important work! :) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Voting system#Effective Date/Election Review

Just a heads up. Timeoin uploaded the new Election Review screenshot and I added a sentence to describe this new process. Since this is pretty straight forward, I didn't go much into detail. Please help me improve that description. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 07:24, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I completely rewrote it 'cause when I read it, I got a feeling that admins may check votes and new "leaders" will step to the office at day change. Some details also added and changed the title to "Election Review". --Icon-Finland.png sampo555 | Talk to me! 17:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Yup, that's exactly what I was looking for someone to expand on the topic. Thanks. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 05:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of page

I think the way Kuhaa deleted Member of Parliament,

  1. It had a discussion.
  2. The he proposed and deleted it, should of been another who was to wiegh up the discussion

Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 16:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Was it AfD'ed or PfD'ed? Or was it deleted under CSD? - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 20:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Damn you and your alphabet soup! --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
What does that mean - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 13:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
It means that I have no idea what he just said :P --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:52, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Please see section I am not amused for the complete explanation of this whole situation. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 15:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
I did. I still have NO idea what AfD'ed or PfE'ed meant. Or CSD, for that matter. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 00:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I am still wondering haha - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 18:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Version 1 Userbox

I've done up a proposed one here. What does everyone think about it? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I like the design, but the wording needs work. Word usage is extremely awkward to be honest... - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 05:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
It definitely needs rephrasing. This should be sth like "This page has been saved as a removed feature in V1 <line break> The informations on this page are NOT the current informations. Please do not use it to gain information!". (it still sounds terrible btw) --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 13:25, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. Wording is rubbish (but it was the best I could think of at the time). At least there arent any objections about the design. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
A very good idea, though wording isn't that good, indeed. I propose something like that "This page contains info about features removed in V1, so the informations contained here might be not the current ones. Please do not use this page as a source for news!. --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 16:10, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Please see the pages here Category:Beta and just copy the language from that notice. But I have to say I really hate the last sentence of it. "This page has been saved as historical information from V1. This information is out of date and should not be used for current game play." --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I like what you said there, ^^ QJ. Ive changed it to that. Tomorrow morning when I wake up again, assuming noone has posted any new objections to this, im going to consider it ready to start tagging. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I am not amused

Abedecian has been locked. I will take it the sysops will keep it up to date for me then. Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 13:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

You're not amused? Well neither am I. Good job not mentioning the reason why it was locked. (y) So in short, he was being over protective and vandalizing his own page so I locked it down until the problem would be solve. But clearly he has no will to talk things straight, because otherwise he would have responded to the message I sent him instead of coming _here_ whining like a fucking brat. It all started when I proposed the deletion of that damned article Member of Parliament or what ever it was. I suggested he could perhaps use {{!}}-template and [[Congress member|Member of Parliament]] instead of making a new page that didn't even have any useful information. It was a stub and basically only said "lol this is what congressmen are called in UK". What did I do?
  • I put a deletion template on it
    • After he started complaining I politely explained my reasons again
  • I corrected all the links pointing to the page because yes, I had the intention of deleting the page because I've been here long enough to know that we don't tolerate pages that have duplicate information
  • Some time (~a week or two after I sent the message) I came back, re-edited the pages I had already done before because Abedecian had reverted my edits.

I don't think I rushed the deletion. There was no one to object or respond to my arguments so I thought you'd lost interest. Ok, how does locking a page relate to this? Well, the first time I fixed the links, I edited Abedecian's citizen page. When he reverted it, he had left a message "Don't touch my page" or something similar, implying it's "his" page. As we all are supposed to know, there is no such thing as page ownership here, and my edit was 100% constructive (and I was in the process of the page this whole mess started from) so I of course edited his page again. Some time later I came back only to find out he had reverted my edit again. I decided to lock the page because he clearly would've done it third time, fourth time, fifth time etc. What Abedecian needs to learn is that he's not perfect. He's not untouchable. I have right to edit your citizen page, even more so if I'm cleaning up the mess you created.

I have also locked his talk page because he deleted the message I left him, obviously to make me look bad. What an asshole [‼]. Oh, and here's his citizen page's history: click. I hope this clears the whole situation at least a bit. I'm happy to answer any questions. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 15:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to add that I've tried to be polite and reasonable with him. I tried explaining the reason to him. It wasn't enough. Then I did what I thought best because he clearly wasn't listening to any reasons. He didn't like it and started vandalizing. Now that I did what I would have done with anybody else. I'm not going to say I was wrong because I don't think I was. I'm not going to apologize because I'm convinced I was right. What I'm going to say is, that I have been really patient with this shit [‼]. But even my patience has its limits. It makes me really pissed of that he first goes reverting my edits without saying a single thing on the discussion where all the points and arguments are weighted, then thinks he owns his citizen page and then, when I've locked his page to prevent any useless edit warrings, he comes here whining about it after DELETING THE MESSAGE I SENT HIM WITHOUT EVEN ANSWERING IT. Does that sound like productive cooperation to you? --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 16:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Kuhaa. I really just wanted to add that template to a page. Um - I have to say i agree with you though. He hasnt been cooperative lately. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
s/lately/ever/ rly he reminds me of koroush: good work, but much hassle --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 18:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Kuhaas: While I agree with your intentions, your execution of administrative powers does not conform to eRep Wiki nor Wikipedia standards. A user may always delete your messages sent to him on the user's own talk page. Deletion of talk page messages by the user signify a silent acceptance of your talk page message. Locking his user talk page is in violation of wiki-etiquette and violating user rights as per eRepublik and eRep Wiki user rights. I am not defending Abscedian's action, but I am a bit more critical of a rogue admin setting a very dangerous precedence muzzling potentially "problematic" Wiki users' userspace discussion pages. On the article deletion, I am not contesting it, so you two may duke it out constructively in a moderated venue. Belea: as a Bureaucrat, this is now your job to settle any disputes involving a sysop of this Wiki. Please moderate their discussions to find an acceptable neutral outcome and take appropriate action as to this sysop's potential abuse of administrative powers. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 18:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
I think Abedecian should show some maturity , and show some understandability in the current situation.Rules are for all of us , regardless if it is a Sysop or a normal user. His page should be unlocked , with the hope , that he doesn't do such things in future.
There is nothing wrong , when you take an action , you've warned for, before taking it. Abedecian , please , don't start a war or so , you won't die for loosing 3-10 or more lines from your page.. --Icon-Pakistan.png DanielDimow||Speak to me. 18:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Although users are bound to basic regulations on here, users with sysop powers must be held to a higher standard. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 19:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Let me describe the whole situation. Abedecian has made an article, which was a stub. You deleted the page and started the discussion at Talk:Congress member (by the way, in the Wiki from talk pages I read only the bar...). Then you edited Abedecian's page, and he reverted your edit, and you edited again, and he reverted it again, and you locked his page. I have a couple of questions for me to understand better... Kuhaa, did you give user the warning? Why couldn't you write in the bar about the situation? Did you consult your decision with other sysops? Abedecian, did you explain, why you were reverting Kuhaa's edits? Why didn't you talk with him at talk page? --Icon-Poland.png Caroline au Marymont|Talk to me. 19:14, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh my... The whole deal started about a link that didn't have to be created anyway... Congress member is an official position ingame, why do people have the need to change it? It is not enough that we have congressman, congresswoman and senator, nooooo... Lets waste our time and effort to create additional redirects! But, the resolution is simple, yellow card for both editors and a request for both of them: Kuhaa, don't edit Abedecian article, you have a lot of other articles to edit, Abedecian, please avoid creating redirects or articles of same meaning unless there are additional 5 articles pointing to that non-existent page. And guys, I love you both, don't fight, please, especially with so small problems like linking. Abedecian's page is unlocked but please use Congress member | Member of Parliament. Thank you for your time. --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 19:35, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

While I admit I might have lost my cool at some point, I still don't think I've done anything fundamentally wrong. Maybe visited the gray area, but violations? I don't think so. I'll answer to some things pointed out.
  • Caroline au Marymont (btw please remember to sign): The problem wasn't that the article was a stub. It was basically just a page declaring that congressmen are called Members of Parliament in the UK. Whoa, that sure needs its own page...not. Yes, I edited his citizen page but so I did many others. And it wasn't just his page, he had reverted my edits on many other pages too. I didn't lock any other pages because his citizen page seemed to be only one where he had reverted my edits after the deletion. What I did with those pages was that I changed the link to Congress member while keeping the appearing text "Member of Parliament". Well that's a huge change, isn't it? Definitely worth reverting and accusing an user of vandalism! I'd also like to point out that after the deletion Member of Parliament will result in red link as you might notice. Did I warn him? No. Why? Because he knew damn well what he was doing. He knew why I was reverting his edits, there was no need to message him until he went too far.
  • Jameson: My problem wasn't really the act of deleting the message itself rather than what it meant. I had a reason, as insignificant as you might consider it, to lock his page. I left him a message explaining that reason. What does he do? He deletes it and then comes here moaning about how his page was locked and tells nothing else. No background, no nothing. The way he presented the situation would have made me look like the bad guy who abuses his powers only to pick on others. I offered him a chance to leave this matter be and continue editing like nothing happened but apparently he didn't want to.

I've done my best to solve this situation constructively. I don't think locking his page was abusing administrative powers. His user page is a different story, but I didn't lock it until he deleted the message. He might have had a right to do so, I don't really give a damn about that, but deleting it when it could have proven against himself is something I do not have to tolerate. Strip me of my sysop position, strip me of my uber editor badge, I don't care. I'm tired of this. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 19:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Kuhaa, while again as I've already stated above that agreed with your intentions, your methods in executing sysop powers meant you removed the fundamental rights wiki users have. They may not have the right to edit, but they have the right to communicate. In most cases except for heavy vandals/trolls (and even then only on the most extreme case-by-case basis) are talk pages locked or deleted. You've crossed a line in which sets a very dangerous path no wiki, including ours, should have to deal with. I'm sorry, but you need to admit that you were wrong and get over it. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 22:05, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I snapped. I should't have but that's what happened. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 08:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I agree this has gone too far and for too long, I would never want to see you stop being a admin/uber/active. I applogise for any inadiqaute actions I have taken and want to resolve this once and for all, then sweap it all under the rug? - Abedecian ~ Flag-UK.jpg Talk to me and you get cake! Cake.png 18:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

My apologizes to you and everybody for creating such a huge mess over a little thing. I no longer give any excuses for my behavior and wish to be punished accordingly so we can all get over with this. Abedecian, for what I can see you've been a huge help here while I was gone, doing a really good job with templates. I want to see you continue working with us, and in the future I hope we can get along better than what we've shown here. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 07:44, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Both of you need to resolve whatever bull that's between you two and resolve the articles involved immediately. In regards to the use of administrative powers, that's not in our hands. A bureaucrat must perform the adjunct process into what has occurred and recommend the outcome accordingly. - Jameson L. Tai talk/Paramilitary Wing Director of the Church of Valkyrie 22:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I think this matter is resolved. We all have our moments and this one has past. We forgive and are are all friends again right? COOKIES FOR ALL! --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Can i have a cookie? :D --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


Medals

I have seen in the Articles for Deletion category that the templates for the in-game achievements are being removed. I am stating so here, rather than on the talk pages (okay, I realise that they have been there for a month now but I havent looked at them in a while), that they are subject for deletion. I would like to state that I believe that they should stay. Two reasons: 1) a LOT of users (including myself) like to have these medals listed on their page. 2) Not all users who go looking through people's pages will go to the effort of looking at their in-game achievements. Thats my 0.02 AUD worth. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 01:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Explanation for this... There is a talk about embedded wiki which would give the opportunity that person viewing a profile on erepublik would easily be able to see wiki information about him/her... This would make some things not needed any more (like achievement templates and some info on citizen template). But, before that happens, and it will need some time to be implemented I believe that no deletion of any templates will be done! For now, all of them are in use and needed. But, when we will have the opportunity to see how will this embedded wiki look after implementation, then we are going to reconsider about almost every template! --AndyCro Icon-Croatia.png Click here to talk with me baby! ;) 08:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Thankyou for clearing that up for me, AndyCro. Now that I see why it was proposed to be deleted (the Embedded Wiki), I can see why it was being proposed to be deleted. I am going to assume that these templates will not be deleted until that happens though? (If not, please correct me?) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
As far as I am concerned, the "embedded wiki" is a suggestion ONLY. This is something on eRep's end... not ours, so I would imagine it is low priority. Those achievement templates are used on 100s of pages and should not be just deleted, because it would cause significant "red links" on so many pages. So.... take the deletion templates off and lets be done with it until something else happens. --QJ Lincoln Talk To Me 15:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Done, QJ. Templates removed ... for now. (Im all in favour of them removing them if they DID embed the Wiki, though!) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 16:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Capital Region

Just wondering. Can a nation's capital be retreated by the President? Someone told me that it cant, but I can see nothing to suggest this on Capital (political). Either way, Ill add in the correct information on that page after it has been answered, btw. Still, I would very much like to know the answer to this question. (Also, is the info about the highest population true? That doesnt seem correct!) --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 05:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I recall and Insider that stated that the last region of country can't be retreated. If so, capital can be retreated unless it's the last remaining region of a country. --Icon-Finland.png Kuhaa|sTalk to me! 08:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I thought that as well. But my Prime Minister thinks that the Capital cannot be retreated, and would thus be the "last region"? --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 10:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, capital can be retreated, unless it's last region of a country. Also when capital is conquered the biggest populated region becomes new capital. --Icon-Poland.png Grzechooo drop a line 14:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for that. It also says In the New World, the capital of a country is defined as the region with highest population from that country. - this is incorrect. (e.g. Austria - Upper Austria is its capital, but it has 110 citizens, whereas Styria (288), Hesse (163), and Bavaria (498) all have higher populations. Still, thanks for you're help clearing up the matter of a country capital. --Icon-Australia.png Timeoin|Say G'Day 14:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Clear template

Hey, I noticed that Template:- only works if used to clear both sides of a page. This is not always desired, as when there is an infobox or image on one side but not the other, and trying to simply clear an image can result in some very b0rked pages.

Therefore, would somebody special enough to edit templates please change <br clear="all" /> to <br clear="{{{1|all}}}" />? This would allow such constructions as {{-|left}} and {{-|right}}. If something like this already exists, could you please point it out to me? Thanks, Δενδοδγε τ\c 09:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Done (editing templates is a privilege automatically granted after a certain amount of edits. this is done to prevent accidental damage from unexperienced editors) --Mini "Template" Bill Icon-Italy.png bother me! 09:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)